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    2014!

    I'm hitt'n the show tomorrow..... wooohoooo
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    2014!

    If you've never been, you gotta go. It's a perceptual chubby for the gun freak. Ain't nothin like hands on...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Please send me a PM for information on BF with 4Ga liner.
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    BF with 4Ga Liner We are getting our ducks lined up on this now. I'll have more info later today.
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    A quick calculation shows it will be around 1185 lbs. It's still up 150 lbs over the stock weight of 1035 lbs. What makes good sense is to provide a net 1/4" body. The outer shell is 12 gauge (0.105 in), so getting to 1/4 inch would require a 10 gauge liner (0.105 + 0.135 = 0.240 in). Do that...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Well, our distribution would disagree with you. The 4 gauge liner on a BF6030 will add an estimated 285 lbs to an already overweight safe that most dealers won't stock because it's over that magic 1000 lb mark. Most competing models are well under 800 lbs. This HD version will tip the scales at...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    The 1/4" BF safe Okay, here is the deal. The heavy liner BF is not in the lineup for next season. However, if you want one, call your local dealer/distributor and ask for a quote for a BF with a 4-gauge liner. Our manufacturing and engineering is GTG, but we shelved the product for the time...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Oh yes, absolutely. Our fill material we call "Fire Clay", which is not a clay at all, is much more effective. Although the mix formula is a secret I can't reveal, the base material and primary mix component is a particular grade of cement (there are many grades, all providing different cast...
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    2014!

    I will be going to my 26th SHOT in a row...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Gypsum Board, aka Drywall, is a very effective insulator for fire safes. It has it's weaknesses, but in general the water/steam content is rather mind blowing. You think of a material like that to be very dry, and when you work with it, it sucks all the moisture out of your hands. But, that is...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Spoken like a true preacher 2-AR... Why do you think they blow the insulation into your attic. If packing didn't reduce the R-value, they would make that 18-24 inches of fluffy insulation into a 1 inch thick slab and nail on the rafters or just drop in cut panels all over the joists.
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    It's unfortunate that this testing is so expensive. I'm actually doing a series of gunsafe fire tests in November, but we can't test a sample just to prove a point. If the dry insulation was even remotely interesting, we would already be using it. Besides, it's not our style to spend gobs of...
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    Well, there is more to that science that you might think. The space shuttle tiles are not seeing the incredible temperatures as you might think. Read about it here if you care to, but in brief, the skin of the tiles deflect 80% of the heat. The low density tile core is the insulator, a very...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    The science of heat transfer is frequently thought of as theoretical. It's not. The equations we use to describe thermal behavior is highly accurate, and only very small errors are found due to some extremely small factors we ignore. Kind of like the wind resistance on a car, we ignore the valve...
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    The largest in the BF Security Safe Line is the BF3416. As Frank points out, that safe has a 30-minute rating. This is stark evidence of the extraordinary conditions of UL Testing under UL72 using the ASTM E119 fire curve. Let me explain how this came to pass... First, the UL72 standard...
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    New Member? Introduce yourself here (just intros, questions get answered elsewhere)

    Greeting all! My name is Tony. I am the VP of Engineering for AMSEC, the safe company. I have been there for over 25 years. I know a little bit about safes. I am a conservative, gun loving American living in the Peoples Republic of California. I am a lifetime NRA member, and a political...
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    RSC Decision - AMSEC or Sturdy

    Can I Help? Hi gang.... TheSafeGuy here... :neener: Good read here. Glad to see that the references to other discussions are making a difference. I would hate to write all that stuff again, LOL. I would be glad to answer any questions that you might have. In the mean time, I'm going back...
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