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good point, thank you. I will contact Ruger

@BobWright, thank you for the helpful information. Yes, there should be some angle between sight line and barrel, but with the Ruger it is apparently too much. the rear sight shouldn't have to be all the way up to hit the center, especially as I aim for the center, not 6 o'clocking it.

@ normandy, yes, no difference between 9mm and 357.

@dogrunner, thanks, but I really don't think its the ammo. At 7 yards it shouldn't make that much difference. and if the groups are low at 7 yards they will be even lower at 25 yards. Not sure why Ruger makes the front sight so big.

@j-bar, mostly target shooting. will get a semi auto for home defense and carry. the shot groups are about 8 inches below the bulls eye with the rear sight all the way down. As mentioned when the rear sight was raised all the way to correct the shot group, it just popped off completely when...

@onegunred. I dont' think it's my technique, I'm quite good with handguns and can get tight shot groups. The front sight on the Ruger is enormous and causes the sight line to angle upward from the barrel, (trajectory line) Hence the low shot groups. There is not enough movement of the rear...

Thank you. I will try at 25 yards next time at the range. However, holding a straight edge over front and rear sights makes a line that is not parallel with the barrel. It slopes up markedly toward the front. Hence the barrel angles down from the line of sight, and so low shot groups. Is it...

sight adjustment on Ruger Blackhawk: I have a 357/9mm convertible ruger blackhawk. at 7 yards the shot group was low until I raised the rear sight as far as it would go. It was so high that the discharge caused the screw to completely come out of its hole and the sight sprang up off its base...