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Looked pretty sleepy around here, I wanted to shake you guys up a bit, lolol.. :rofl: And Thanks for the warm welcome!

Yip, had the Topper Jr. in 20 Ga. when I was 10-12 years old. Was a great timber rattler snake gun on the old home ranch boonies of Arkansas.

Don't believe I said they don't help in some ways, only not in the aerodynamic realm. And I've worked with many company 'Enginerds' ... PLEASE spare me the grief today! :confused: Thanx!..

Do you document your 'dope chart' in all directions? Very entertaining video for ya!..

Great replies everyone. I didn't actually pay much thought to the 30 pellet statement, but you guys are right. I can only get abt 18 or 21 '0' Buck in my 3 1/2" loads depending on the wad and type of powder I use. I do think uncle Ted stretches it a bit, but he's all good will for the 2nd...

Now those reasons I can buy, but the aerodynamic reason some swear by are baloney. Thanks for the feedback! :)

Depends on distance and situation I guess. I did once kill a large coyote @ 75 yards wth a 12 Ga 3 1/2" with '0' buckshot, but it didn't fall immediately dead like they usually do when I hit 'em with my .223 Rem.

hahaha, it's not a car, lolol.. The drag created by a SS bullet is created by the initial shock wave cone itself, not air flow. Same goes for crosswind drift = angle of the shockwave cone as related to the relative wind. I also debunked Ballistic Coefficient that I posted above for SS bullets...

higher ballistic coefficient of What! Ballistic Coefficient (BC) is basically a measure of how streamlined a bullet is; that is, how well it cuts through the air. Mathematically, it is the ratio of a bullet's sectional density to its coefficient of form. Ballistic Coefficient is essentially a...

This is a Skunk Works Laboratory image of the shockwave parting the airflow. There is nothing but reverberation behind the tip of the bullet. It's actually in a vacuum of space behind the initial shock wave. Where there's no air, there's no airflow. Thanks for supplying the image... Edited for...

I am also a pilot since age 16. Jet fighters or any SS airframe do Not have separate stabilizers and control surfaces for one simple reason, that's because the aerodynamic forces disappear beyond Mach I. The craft would no longer be controllable. The Fully movable surfaces used on SS aircraft...

I use 100gr of 3F in my 12 Ga reloads for .72 cal round musket balls and Buckshot (1.25oz. No Choke) Nice loud hot load.

I bought an NEF 12 Ga Turkey gun with 3 1/2" chamber. That HAS to be the hardest kicking 12 Ga ever made. It's real light, not much mass to absorb recoil. Knocks the snot outta me :confused:

Beyond 1100 fps @ sea level, the bullet shock wave parts the airflow anyways. It super cavitates the air. It is no longer aerodynamic until it slows back below the speed of sound. Humor me o_O

My Mother had hers done @ 78 yrs old. She loves it and still drives with no glasses. I shoot 50mm adjustable eyepiece scopes clearly on my tac driver rifles, but open sights are blurry. I'll prolly be going to get it done next Fall.