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    Conversion of a (Bolt-Action) Shotgun into a .30 cal Rifle?

    The Savage 210 & 212 surely will. The lugs are massive--especially on the 210. The 210 has been tested well above 40kPsi without a hiccup--using BMG brass that's been fire-formed, with original rim turned off, and new 12GA rim piece threaded onto the BMG "post" surrounding the primer after...
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    Conversion of a (Bolt-Action) Shotgun into a .30 cal Rifle?

    As the title states, I'm attempting to figure out what I need to do in order to legally build a "standard" rifle (by "standard", I simply mean using a full-length ~24" bbl, .30 caliber, single-shot, with sporting-style stock), but starting the build from a bolt-action shotgun action. If the gun...
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    12GA Rifle From HELL--

    I just wanted to post this; I apologize for being so late to announce the news. The creator of this thread, Ed Hubel, Hubel458, passed away back in November '21. I stayed in constant contact with Ed over the years ever since the beginning of this thread was started. This was the very thread...
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    Swaging: Driving Bands and their Design

    For reference this case will be straightened, and driving the bullet above it. See attached. I'm working out the chamber final dimensions to be used, then I will turn a barrel with fire form chamber for doing the fire forming.
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    Swaging: Driving Bands and their Design

    After some research, some info surfaced I thought may be suitable in the discussion of driving band design. There's a notable phenomenon occurring in large bore cannons (though it is a phenomenon always occurring in propellant-driven firearms, nonetheless) in which reduction of barrel bore...
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    Swaging: Driving Bands and their Design

    And here we have it. Another thread bites the dust. Thanks I'm using a straight wall 20x102mm Vulcan case with shoulder blown out to make a straight wall. As it turns out 25mm falls into the sweet spot of bore sizes for something known as the 4-bore, a round with sporting exemption. A larger...
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    Swaging: Driving Bands and their Design

    I know exactly what he was referring to. I simply find it obnoxious that any time someone posts something that another reader can find some circumstance of illegality they can imagine applying it within, they whistle dixie and sound the bell saying "you can't do that!", and it happens almost...
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    Swaging: Driving Bands and their Design

    I am very certain what I am doing is legal. What's up with the investigation?
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    Swaging: Driving Bands and their Design

    Hey guys, I am a machinist in my spare time and I have some questions for driving bands as I will be turning my own projectiles for a ~1"/25mm bore cannon. First, can anyone point me towards some good info about the swaging process of applying the bands to the (in my case, steel) projectiles...
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    Calling those with access to 3 Savage guns: 110BA, 220, & 212

    This was already taken into account from the very beginning of course and the pistol will be built legally--starting from an action registered as a pistol from Savage. For anyone now reading who didn't follow the evolution of this oddball thread, let me recap the chain of events from the...
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    Calling those with access to 3 Savage guns: 110BA, 220, & 212

    The more radical thing being done here is bringing the cartridge to life. That's the meat of what's going on here. A pistol is a pistol is a pistol but the chambering will define the rest of the ability, and here in IL the law attempted to put the tamper on that end of things. We saw that and...
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    Calling those with access to 3 Savage guns: 110BA, 220, & 212

    I came to the realization that I had thought about this the wrong way from the beginning. I was in a bit of the mindset that modifying the bolt face from a 20Ga gun would be the way to go about this since the 20Ga bolt head was the first bolt head in progression to larger that would be larger...
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    Calling those with access to 3 Savage guns: 110BA, 220, & 212

    You are awesome! Thanks for inputting so much info into your post. Thanks to the others as well, gotboostvr, for the info on Savage being helpful. I wasn't so sure they would be with the amount of business they probably have to deal with in these times. Rbernie, It's interesting you found that...
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    Calling those with access to 3 Savage guns: 110BA, 220, & 212

    I'm in dire need of some help from anyone owning a Savage 110BA, and who also has access to either a Savage 220 or 212 slug gun. I'm starting a new project, and based on the cartridge requirements, the 220 or 212 is actually the more suitable action for me to use. However, I need to get them to...
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    Chronographs Best Suited for Sabot Projectiles

    It is a cartridge known as the 12GA From Hell (or just 12GA F.H.). It is effectively a .73 caliber rifle rather than a shotgun, as it is uses a full-length heavy-wall brass case, a really big bullet on top of a lot of powder, and a fully rifled barrel. It is fired from a Savage bolt-action...
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    Chronographs Best Suited for Sabot Projectiles

    Hey guys, here's my latest issue; I'm sure many have run into this same issue when using sabots or projectiles with wadding behind them. It goes like this: I have a Chrony Beta Master chronograph which uses typical twin optic sensors like many. I try to put the chrono far enough away to...
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    Fin-Stabilized Discarding-Sabot Projectile Designs

    I have searched quite a bit for information pertaining to (AP)FSDS ammunition--pertaining to the projectile design specifics--yet I have had little luck finding much. For example, the 25x137mm round would be there most desirable round to find data on, as it's the smallest cartridge which...
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    Highest Recoil Energy Known

    Without a lead sled for that HMR? Get out! Would any of you be interested in learning how to handle the recoil, as you say, "like a boss"? I'd be willing to try and guide with videos instead of my unending paragraphs no one probably finishes reading. :D I try to be much more on-point in a video.
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    Highest Recoil Energy Known

    I agree fully that the hit against deadly opponent is in great favor of your life when it's made properly first against that opponent! Upon reaching that stage--first shot being fired--I draw some of my own conclusions on the outcomes that shot could yield; the opponent's death, or merely a...
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    Highest Recoil Energy Known

    I'm going to have to figure out what pistol forum I was on speaking with the owner of 600NE pistol, there were a lot of exotic TC Contenders and bolt action pistols on the forum IIRC. Email search will probably locate it from years back. That guy in the video is not the guy I spoke to. He either...
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