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And only about $800 for the CZ setup! The 85B is a better choice for some since it has ambi controls.

I've dropped my loaded P3AT twice from about 7.5' directly onto a hard tile floor! :what: Actually it slipped out of the cheapo nylon holster I'm using, so technically I didn't fumble the actual gun. :evil: Hit once smack almost vertical on the rear of the slide. Put a little dent into the...

And harder to find aftermarket parts for. Better to stick with the 12 or 410.

Remember Mumbai! Wolverines!!

Shell deformation is easy to avoid. Leave the Bolt in the open position with mag in by using the BHO lever. You can't load +1 like this, but there's no pressure on the second shell this way. Mags DO NOT need to be seated hard with the bolt open. The BHO is tricky, but when loading I use...

Why not? It'll dry quicker and more thoroughly hopefully. Myth Busters did a segment on that and ammo won't cook off until it reaches 450 or so. I say dry it at 150-200 for several hours. Just don't have small hands around that could change the temp on you!

OP's postulation of a perfect trading world might work, IF WE LIVED in a perfect world. Problem is, we aren't, and we are smack in the middle of the flux. People ARE losing jobs due to offshoring, etc. People in manufacturing working the line for 20-30 years are being let go with a thank you...

Why the 20? Kick almost as hard as the 12 due to the light barrel, harder to find parts to convert. I'd go 12, or if you want light, get the 410. More parts for it.

KelTec PLR-16 AR style pistol

A year ago they were under $400. I missed one at $389 by days and ended up ordering mine for $480 last December.

Here is the operative statement of that entire lot of gibberish. Of course gun crime will reduce temporarily. Until the criminals get theirs by other means. They conveniently used a very short period following the ban when things are in disarray.

From what I've read, stick with the metal framed Kahr's. Supposedly less problems. I have an MK-40 (metal) that's been great and I would have no problems CC'ing it. Have never tried their polymers, so I have to reserve judgment.

I love DT in most of my guns, even my little P3AT. However, for some reason the 40 is soo hot that it caused FTF's in my Kahr MK40. Almost flew out of my hands once! A couple mags of the stuff and I was done. Just too hot for the little gun (or me!). I would NOT try it in the PM40! The DT...

No, he's the ANTI-Messiah. Just look at the ILLINOIS pick three lotto numbers the day after he was elected!

Somehow, the bulk of the mass shooting didn't START until AFTER gun bans. Somehow the gun ban idiots don't understand why. Keep :banghead: hoping for a different outcome. :barf:

Springfield GI for a bit less even.

May have been posted before, but this version is pretty nice. All parts are labeled. Pretty cool version. Shows a nice firing demo as well after assembly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6SmlOEzNBs

I think i saw a graphic in an old thread on this subject, possibly on a different site. Anyway, when chambering a round directly and slamming the slide forward, the extractor HITS the rear of cartridge and has to deflect out and around the rim to engage the groove. Now take a look at your...

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NEVER a GOOD idea in ANY firearm. You are stressing the extractor and spring, and could easily break off the hook. When the round loads from the mag, it slide up INTO the extractor. The hook doesn't ride up over the cartridge rim when sliding into battery each time. Just because you've...