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    Obama AR-15

    Question. Will an assault weapon ban pass muster, considering Heller's ruling regarding "common use"? I would certainly say AR's are in common use, with the number that are out there.
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    This time, a happy ending

    Didn't think criminals had guns in the UK?
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    Do you like Japanese cartoons with realistic guns shown?

    They've both already been mentioned, but +1 to Noir and Gunslinger Girl. There's a LOT of gunplay in the latter.. one of the first scenes in the series has one of the little girls wasting a bunch of criminals with a P90.
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    Anybody here ever 'camped out' at a gun buyback?

    Ugh.. that makes me sick, too. That gun had been passed down through the generations until he got ahold of it and destroyed it. That is such a waste.
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    I-Bolts $325 NIB/$275 After Rebate

    They all 30.06?
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    CDNN: Best deal in the house.

    Haven't shot mine yet, but i've done a lot of dryfiring. The stock trigger is pretty nice... very crisp break, not too much pull.
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    The Lonely Sheepdog

    Woof.
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    Gun Inspections in Oklahoma!

    Wow. I live in Oklahoma and hadn't heard about that. That's a bit disturbing.
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    The Lonely Sheepdog

    A sheepdog isn't going to be able to tell the difference between "his" sheep or someone else's flock. ;) If a wolf shows up, the sheepdog will protect any of the sheep he can, not just the ones he considers "his."
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    bad guys with body armour

    I'd like to point out that even if a thug is wearing soft body armor that could technically make a pistol or shotgun round nonlethal, it wouldn't bounce harmlessly off. It can still cause massive bruising, break bones, and cause other damage due to the sheer impact forces involved. If you blast...
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    Well, I suppose that depends on intent, on a moral level. If you INTENDED to shoot the bystander, or knew they were there and fired anyway, then you're morally no different than the initial criminal. If it was a complete accident, I don't think it suddenly makes you a bad person. You'd FEEL...
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    Definitely. My argument wasn't for the shooter in this case, ever. I think he was very much in the wrong. My argument was in the hypothetical "shooting a guy invading your house and hitting an innocent down the street" scenario. I think this guy was negligent for firing into the tent.
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    It takes a big man to admit he may be wrong. Thank you, you have my respect. That's because they want you to be careful and mindful, and i'm all for that. You SHOULD have to worry about hitting bystanders when you shoot. But if one is accidentally hit, your life shouldn't be over because of...
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    Saying that you could be charged if you're being negligent is no different than what I originally said. You're still not proving me wrong, here. If I opened fire on somebody that was standing in a crowd, then that's negligence and I would expect charges. If I shot a home invader and the bullet...
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    It says "and accidentally hitting a bystander may constitute negligence on your part and could result in criminal charges." MAY. COULD. Supposition. No evidence. I'm not a judge, so i'm not going to go into guilt or innocence on this particular case..but this guy was being charged for...
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    No, but an example nontheless. Your turn. Provide an example of a person who WAS charged with criminal charges after accidentally shooting an innocent during the course of a legally justified self defense shooting.
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    I just did. Check the post above yours. By the by...legally justified self defense shootings happen every day. They're not rare. CCW, Castle Doctrine, ect would not EXIST if these things didn't happen on a fairly normal basis.
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    I think that's quite prevalent here as well. I sincerely doubt the majority of the people arguing have legal firsthand knowledge as to how these laws work. Can anyone find a case to show as proof, in a gun friendly state, where a person WAS charged with criminal charges after accidentally...
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    That doesn't make any sense. Why would shooting someone who was trying to kill you be unreasonable in any remote sense of the word? It's highly regrettable if you hit an innocent that was hiding behind a bush behind the criminal, but it's not unreasonable that you defended yourself.
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    19-Year-Old, Gun, Macho Puffing Up, "Self-Defense," Dead Bystander

    Not using this as an end all source, but it's the first thing that came up during a search. An article about a legal professor arguing, recently, that people SHOULD be held liable for unintended victims. If they already are, why would this article exist...
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