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I've had my 1980 BHP since it was born and it has always fired everything except 147gr. I have never fired +P in it, however - best to avoid that.

I'll probably buy one of these. The 380 locally is about $459, the 9mm about $500, the online price of the 30SC is about $280. 380 ammo is full price, I have enough 9mm to last so no extra cost for that, and 30SC ammo is a little discounted, though I doubt the Federal Punch ammo has...

FWIW, I just spoke to a customer service rep at S&W. She said the Shield EZ 9mm and the 30SC Recoil Spring Assemblies are the same, while the 380 is different.

I recall when Evan Marshall, before he became "Marshall and Sanow," slipped into into his first report for American Handgunner the controversial 32 Auto Silvertip because it kept showing up successfully in the reports of officer involved shootings. That first report showed three out of five...

Okay. That may be more reasonable than the formulas that derive fpe - in that, they overuse use velocity by using it to derive both initial impulse and then again for fpe. I'd still like to try it with Punch ammunition compared to the hotter loads.

Is the recoil approximately the same, though? Most of the loads I read about have approx. 350fpe, while the Federal Punch appears to have around 300fpe. On a percentage basis that would be a significant reduction of energy and commensurately lower recoil.

Not much, I agree, but that was also the case for the 30-40 Krag, the .45 Auto, and the 7.62x51. In each case they moved toward a higher pressure cartridge. The 30SC is higher pressure. It kind of puts me in mind of the changeover from the M-14 to the M-16 - the basic load changed from 100...

One possibility I haven't seen considered is that the 30SC may/could be the start of a new cartridge line - head dimensions - and if it takes off could engender new cartridges. As I'm singularly focused on a 380 replacement, maybe the designers have in mind a 30SC "Kurz" (Short) - that would...

From my point of view the 30SC frame size does not need to be reduced, though it may need to be strengthened. We have a choice of plenty of "380 frame"-size, including the Glock G42 and the P365-380 with locked breech designs. If the 30SC is to be useful, i.e., displace the 380, it needs to be...

Sorry, I skipped a lot of stuff so I may have missed something good... Personally, I think Federal targeted the wrong cartridge - they should have made the 30SC a 1,050 - to 1,200 fps effort instead of making a low-end 9mm. Even so, I'm tempted by the 30SC in the Shield EZ. At $280 the pistol...

How are you and the dog doing?

I'm enjoying this thread and so am bringing it back to life to see if anyone else has anything to add. I had a new Super-X 1 and thoroughly enjoyed learning to shoot with it on a skeet range, but carrying that heavy thing for mountain grouse was just too much and I sold it. For that and quail I...

I had a P30SK for awhile. I couldn't hit anything with it, and it didn't seem like I could get good with it unless I committed to it. I believed I'd have trouble maintaining my skills with my other pieces, and that didn't seem worth it for a pistol that felt a little bulky for a concealed carry...

Not an owner, but I've been reading about them. 1. They're a bit heavy - listed at 8.9 pounds. 2. If you try to change the adjustable gas setting without removing the hand guard and by prying it out of the detent you will probably bend it slightly and it will likely jump out of the detent on the...

Good to know, but I don't think that's a range I could likely justify in a self defense situation.

I tried the P30SK LEM for a year or so and couldn't make it shoot well for me. I understand some people have to practice with it exclusively - no other pistols - and I wasn't ready to do that. I sold it and bought the P30S DA/SA, the one with the safety and decocker. I carry it either chamber...

Liquid propellant and separate bullet/projectile cassette to allow dial-a-velocity changes, more efficient so less cleaning, less recoil, and more accuracy because of the velocity tuning. Breech might be more stationary since it won't have to recoil far enough to absorb a full length cartridge...

I've considered them, but the grips take them out of pocket territory for me, which is the way I use my G43. There would nothing wrong with hanging them from my belt in a holster, but I already have enough belt handguns. OTOH, I expect they'll do just fine that way.

I had a P210 for about 10 years, mid-70s to mid-80s. It truly was a piece of art, and I enjoyed that aspect about as much as shooting it. Feeling down? Take it out and work the slide - it was like two pieces of polished glass with a film of oil between them, incredibly silky smooth. The trigger...

I'll be picking up a Browning BAR .308 this week - impulse purchase, so I don't know much about it. I do understand it's a "pre-93," whatever that means. So, what does it mean to be "pre-93?"