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Um . . . no. Extremes stuff still penetrate more then enough to make it into the next apartment.

The leather jacket thing is an excellent argument against my hypothesis. It also came up on the Firingline and pretty much changed my mind . . . So . . . I will change the content of this thread to: Why is extreme shock still in business?????

Response to Grandpa Shooter I have no idea of the scope of your medical condition, its cause or another deciding factors so take my advise with a healthy teaspoon of common sense because you know way more about your condition the I do . . . But (depending on the cause or your neuropathy)...

O.K . . . to clarify. (No offense to the THR guys but the boys on the Firingline picked this up pretty quickly . . . :D) Yes, I feel like frangible bullets are for the most part crap, unless you are using them for target practice at steel plates. And yes, I am questioning whether or not...

O.K never mind that . . . The XPT controlled expansion in 180-200 gr looks much better . . .

Now don't get me wrong (and I am going out on a limb here a little bit so be gentle :rolleyes:) but frangible ammunitions in wheel gun magnums seems like they would be pretty darn lethal to me. Frangible ammunition in service calibers (I feel) go way beyond inadequate. We've all seen...

Wow . . . great spread sheet. Thanks allot. :) I would like to here opinions on DT frag nasty ammunition. 135gr JHP @ 1600fps - 11.0" / .70" frag nasty Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARhOqkOoh9E I'm visualizing in its performance in the 6 1/2" barrel of a S&W revolver. the link...

For those who are interested . . . this might be a REAL problem From link: http://www.10mmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=3741 "the DT Gold Dot went around 18-20" due to over expansion. Petals folded back and under the base of the bullet. This load had the smallest recovered diameter. The...

Thanks for the responses . . . :D Anyone know anything about wound generation vs the 10MM? :scrutiny: Anyone seen a deer taken with a 10MM by any chance. Maybe info from the original FBI study?? Just fishing here, but every little bit helps . . .

I have recently been warming up to the Idea of trading in my .45ACP for a 10 MM. So I thought I would begin a thread discussion on the subject. I am not looking for a caliber war here, I am looking (specifically) what real world benefits (or lack of) the 10mm JHP can offer when pushed at...

I thought it was a .38 Special load myself at first. Until I read about it being used in suppressed Uzi's.

I had thought for the longest time that 147 gr was as high as the 9mm went. Guess not. I hear the 158 gr is big over seas. I would like to here opinions and facts about the 158 gr 9mm. Whats it used for, whats it capable of, ballistics, penetration, the whole deal.

Thanks for the responses fella's . . .

:) Funny you should say . . . A little weight on your revolver goes a long way.

Simple question . . . and I would like to gather opinions . . . Lets say I am so inclined to purchase S&W revolver chambered in 10MM. Lets say I am so inclined as to put nothing but double tap through it all day long. (not really all day everyday but often enough). Am I looking at...

Response to PremiumSauces The 7MM Rem Mag . . . And yes, I put allot of rounds through my guns . . . So how much of a shorter life can I expect?

I guess my man here was right . . . I'm going to be looking into this a little further. If the 7mm can do what I need at 400 + yards then maybe the butt kicking .300 Win Mag I have loved for so long may not be necessary . . . Go figure . . . :eek: Keep the posts coming if anyone has...

Any one know if its true that a 7mm mag actually has a SHORTER BARREL LIFE then a 300 win mag?! :what: I have heard this said and that might be the deal breaker. Personally I don't see why it would but I have heard it stated more then once.

Me and my buddy have been debating the pros and cons of the 7mm magnum. Now mainly I have stuck to the .308 and 300 Win Mag, and they have both done their intended job respective when called upon. I am being told that the 7mm magnum effectively “bridges” the gap between the .308 and the .300...

I was suspicious of that . . . which is why I came here for a second opinion. So anyone heard of a suppressor made for a .416??