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Still not sure how that relates at all to the effectiveness of the .40S&W round. I have the most current CDNN cataloge in my hand. Beretta 92F (9mm) $319 Beretta 96 (.40) $319 S&W 5906 (9mm) $299 - $319 depending on grade S&W 4006 (.40) $299 to $349 depending on grade S&W...

And the price of used handguns has what to do with the effectivness and purpose of the round?

Lasers. The only safe bet.

So did I when I was making it up. Thanks for all the replies. I almost don't have the heart to tell you this whole thread is a goof. I was getting tired of the "Glock vs XYZ" threads so I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring. I wanted to see how long it could go, but people were taking...

I've started avoiding the "Glock vs. Glock" threads.

Which do you think is better? And why? I'm trying to decide which is better. I only have a small amount of money to spend and I'm wanting to get a gun for CCW, IDPA competition, target shooting and good for SHTF/EOTWAWKI situations. Also, my girl friend and or mother will shooting...

I know. Crazy talk isn't it?

Never mind.

What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED don't you people understand. :evil: Just kidding. I'd have called the cops too after investigating the sceen as the OP did.

What we and the saftey nazi's don't know is what happened right before this picture was taken. It is *possible* that the instructor cleared the weapon, 8 people in a row confirmed that it was cleared, and empty mag (that was also inspected by a number of people to ensure it was clear) was...

You forget your history. Most successfull movements use a mixture of "in your face" and "behind the sceens". Our country wasn't founded soley because of Patrick Henry's speach. For every Patrick Henry, there was a Ben Franklin working behind the sceens. For every John Hancock signing...

Again, as I posted earlier, I think this difference is the root of the real "elitism" on THR. Most of the other stuff is just people bragging or pretending to be a HSLD operator from their parents basement. That's not being elite...thats just being a blowhard. But to me, the root of the real...

Camslam...thank you for actually providing examples that can be discussed rather than amorphous "we's" and "they say...". When you present it like that, I have to say I agree. I don't know if it's elietism as much as it is internet bravado or just plain ole blow-hardedness. Yours is a far...

I think the real issue that's not being adressed is the devide between those who feal all weapons should be available to anybody at any age with with zero restrition and those who feal *some* restrictions are prudent. It seems that whenever (or at least in my experience) someone suggests the...

Yet you are the one posting that the opinions of the posters with whom you disagree are elitest because they don't jive with yours. And frankly, I really don't remember ever reading "you aren't allowed to have that opinion" here at THR. Now, I don't read every thread, and I try to avoid the...

I would beg to differ. You posted... What you are saying is that the OP is entitled to his opinion that the age 21 rule to CCW is stupid. But that if anyone disagrees, and dares to hold an opinion that includes a restriction on ownership (real or imagined), they are elitest. Whether you...

I see, so the OP is entitled to his/her opinion, but nobody else is allowed to have one, especially one that disagrees? Riiiiiiiigggggghhhhtttttt. It is 100% possible to suggest a limitation on the ownership of a firearm without being a card carying liberal, frothing, gun grabbing, anti.

There's 1385 people on line right now. The crazy wild side of me is willing to bet someone out in cyberworld is going to disagree with one of your positions. Because they do so does not automatically mean they are "elitist". Simply means they are different. And somebody suggesting that...

An age has to be picked. The age chosen in this case is 21. Could have been 18 or 20 or 35 for that matter. But no matter what age is chosen someome below the cutoff will claim, "but I'm way more mature that that, why can't I do it". Sorry folks, but the way the law works as it is the...

Which ever one you chose, make sure it's the "right" one. Because then you woln't have to worry about food, shelter, medicine or that pesky thermonecular mushroom cloud on the horrizon.