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What rationale does your range use for not allowing bird shot?

Their manual advises to never allow the coating to come into contact with insect repellant such as DEET, since it will melt the product. Obviously it is susceptible to other chemicals also.

The easiest way to visualize this is to assume that you fire 2 double barrel shotguns on your shoulder at the same time with one shell in each. Obviously you will get twice the recoil. Now place both shells in the same gun and your total gun weight is cut in half, so you double the recoil...

If the barrels go off at different times, you get twice the recoil. The laws of physics prove that if the barrels go off at the same time you get 4 times the recoil. No wonder it is not desired more than once!

Their 00 is actually smaller than 0 since it measures .315". The load is less than an ounce, low recoil, still has excess penetration, is not the best but will do the job.

Because of the recommendations on this site I took the shotgun course from Louis 4 years ago. I'm glad I did.

#4 Buckshot has the FBI recommended optimum penetration of 15" at 10 yards provided that it is full sized (.24 and not .235) and it is loaded to a muzzle velocity of 1455 fps. Such a load is very rare, which is why the IWBA claimed that its use for self defense is marginal.

It obviously doesn't meet SAAMI standards which allow .015" + or - for buckshot. .315 is commonly used for 00 Buck but nothing smaller would be permitted by the voluntary SAAMI standards.

Light primer strikes on a single shot can also be caused by freezing weather binding the firing pin. This year's temperatures have seen a rash of this.

It just seems strange that Remington is coming around to agreeing with that. Maybe they won't promote their birdshot for home defense any more.

Remington Arms has an interesting article in their December, 2013 Ezine which is available on-line. The article on page 29 now admits that #1 or #4 Buckshot is "just about ideal" for home protection. It is not necessary to debate this issue, since it has already been beaten to a thousand...

Many turkey shoots ban "sleeved" guns which can have a gradual choke from the chamber to the muzzle. Some are so tight that they would like the pellets to exit one at a time. They do give the user quite an unfair advantage as compared to normal shotguns.

0000 Buck was designed for 10 gauge. It fits at 2 pellets per layer, provided you use no shotcup. It doesn't fit in 12 gauge no matter how you stack it.

I believe comment #21 may have been referring to #4 Buckshot. I also wonder why our last two vice presidents do not have a proper understanding of shotguns.

I have 2 12's and a 10. Be careful, they can be addictive.

I, too enjoy throwing a 10-gauge slug at a deer, none of which have been able to stop a slug yet. However, the Federal slugs are somewhat less than .77 in diameter and have a muzzle velocity of (only) 1280 fps.

A cylinder bore riot gun makes a perfect gun for jumpshooting rabbits. Being confident of hitting small fast-moving targets is also helpful if your gun ever had to be used for more patriotic purposes.

Regular foster slugs are perfect for deer. Brenneke Black Magic slugs will work on boar or any other North American species. You are probably limited to 50 yards unless you do a lot of practicing or get something better than a bead sight.

I've often wondered why some manufacturer doesn't make youth loads. A 20 gauge shell could be loaded with 3/4 oz. of shot at 1000 to 1100 feet per second. It would not only have minimal recoil, but it would be very effective for rabbits, squirrel and doves.

Mid-1960's Sears new single shot 16 gauge. The firing pin didn't have a return spring, so it was designed to have the ejector push the firing pin back in. It took less than a box of shells for the firing pin to be so worn that it would not reliable fire.