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See post 77 and save your breath Frank. I'm done here. Nice try though....

Holy cow dude. I can't believe this is boggling you so much. Use of Force allows the use of a weapon per 1-C. The use of a weapon is also Deadly Force at the same time. The description of Deadly Force is also 1-C. Deadly Force is still authorized under Use of Force once again per 1-C. Use...

You guys are so off base in regards to the laws "here," that it isn't even funny. How they are other places.....I have no idea and don't really care. The use of Deadly Force is already described under Use of Force and included as part of it. Use of Force "includes" the use of a weapon and...

That's totally wrong Frank. I'm afraid it's you that doesn't understand. And a few dead cattle rustlers around here have proved it to me. The owners did NOT go to jail. As described under "Use of Force".....the application of force via a weapon is legal. The only difference is that...

Honestly, I don't care if you are a lawyer or not Frank. You could be a divorce lawyer, and you live in California? The difference between "use of force" and use of "deadly force" is pretty much the same thing here in Kansas...

You could be right. I'm not doubting that. I just don't know. Truthfully, I usually can't even feel my heart beating when I shoot. It's not something I can easily recognize. For breathing, I agree. Lungs filled to 1/2 capacity or so is the steadiest for me too. Sometimes I inhale 1/2 a...

My principles? We don't have the luxury of principles all the time. Unless we want to end up like the UK and Australia or the Jews in WW2 Germany, we had better be willing to do whatever it takes to win. Even if that means fighting dirty too. Losing is not an option. Personal principles be...

Kansas has no duty to retreat even when defending property. YOU my friend are the one spreading falsehoods. That's just how it is whether you agree or not.

Never had my heartbeat make me hit or miss a shot either way. But breathing? Yep.

But it is....here. It is based on escalation of needed force however. You can't just go for the kill automatically. That's true. You pretty much have to talk to the bad guy first, then yell at him, then threaten him, etc... That's what the law means here about what is "reasonable." But you...

I'm not saying or suggesting that any of it is right. But I'm not here to be the morals police either. I agree with you that the "anything goes" mentality sucks. It's like a bad rash that politicians on both sides just can't completely cure. I'm just trying to be realistic here instead of...

lol.... I don't care about the man enough to even look up the spelling of his name. You knew who I meant. It's not "my" fault he even spells his own name wrong. :scrutiny: :D

My response was to Sam's post specifically. But thank you for your irrelevant statement just the same.

I had no idea they made 5-inch GP100s either. Cool!

Revolt how? Throw tea and crumpets at people while chanting "Pierce Morgan Sucks?"

Integrity? Ignorance? This is politics man....lol I'd convince people aliens are on the moon and about to invade earth if I thought it would help preserve our Constitutional Rights bro. Just sayin'....

I say it's fine. Turn about is fair play. I mean after all, 90% of Americans want more gun control right? lol.....

Never heard of this site. Does it have some to do with the weaponeer training equipment that we used to call the pinball machine?

Pierce Morgan is gonna be pissed....:D

Wow. That was a little nutz too!