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I don't know how many Iron Maiden fans there are here, but they're a British band and one of their songs has lyrics that deal with this type of insanity going on in Britain, where the response to guilt is pity, and the response to innocence is punishment...

"For sheer firepower the automatic shotguns were unbeatable." Makes sense to me. "As far as I know, none ever went further than the prototype stage." I guess this excludes the Atchisson - USAS-12 relation? Since to my knowledge, the USAS is complete and in production, or at least was. Do you...

So they aren't used in special operations to, well, engage hostiles at close range with as much firepower as you can get in CQB? You'd think there would be some reason for those things to be made, let alone getting ordered by some agencies.

Still, at least the USAS-12 has been manufactured in sufficient numbers to make you think it's been used here and there.

Are there any recorded instances of full auto shotguns, such as the USAS-12, being successfully used in combat? If yes, what's the performance evaluation? I can't think of much general utility reasons for using a fully automatic shotgun, only maximizing firepower against human opponents comes...

If math were that easy, I'd be good at math. Unfortunately it isn't. Not that this kind of simple probability could be applied to this situation, but even if it could, 2 * 60% in sequence equals 84% if I'm not mistaken.

Guns rights will never stop being under attack until and unless individual rights as a concept, with the proper philosophical foundation, are cemented in law.

Then why not expect FMJ performance and then get the JHP performance as a bonus whenever it decides to work? You'll still behave, and shoot, exactly the same way. Just with better results with most of the bullets.

I can't figure out which eye is dominant. I've tried some of the techniques but I end up having to "choose" which copy of the image to focus on.

This is true. Saving one's life should be all the motivation you need. If that isn't enough, I don't think anything is.

1911Tuner, why go for a bullet that is guaranteed to not expand instead of one that might, perhaps even probably so? How is "decent" better than "less than perfect"?

Very seldom do I see this approach being suggested. Perhaps stepping up to the challenge and beating the problem is better than yielding to it and going for a subpar (in terms of power) gun? I'm not trying to be hostile but generally, I don't think giving up should be the first order of the day...

Such things happen. But an unassisted Uzi (Micro possibly?) in the hands of an 8-year old? Should be a no brainer. Some mistakes just shouldn't ever happen even once. Yes, the father is probably overcome with grief and guilt. Still, the boy will never exist again.

Where I live, it's illegal to carry any kind of weapon. Firearms, knives, pepper sprays, you name it. Too bad that criminals are usually prepared with weapons, numbers, ambushes, picking their targets or any combination thereof. Basically, unless the criminal is alone and stupid enough to...

Too bad the innocent boy had to pay for this idiocy. Would you let an 8 year old handle a chainsaw? Sure as heck not. The same goes for full autos with no stock.

If it was aimed and fired at, it wasn't a mistake. That was somebody's pet, perhaps a family member for since 10 years past.

Anything can, and frequently has been throughout history, be construed as mental illness. You do NOT want to go down that road. Keep things objective. Very true.

He preferred his pet cats declawed, lest they muster the audacity to protest their serfdom.

Uncalled for.

What would this do to ammo costs?