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  1. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Can you tell me what bullet you are using? Thanks
  2. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    I am using the Hornady 32-20 Winchester Custom Grade Dies. I had to purchase the 32 S&W/H&R dies also to get the Hornady New Dimention Expander Die. I like Hornady dies for their quality especially the locking ring that tighten the dies in the press. My crimps are a little shallow according to...
  3. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Is there a general rule when crimping bullets. 32-20 bullet has a crimp ring. After gently crimping running a fingenail over the crimp and only catching a little of the rim I stop the crimp. I guess there is no advantage to crimping so the rim is firmly imbedded into the crimp groove. I...
  4. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Can you comment on how much black powder is correct for loading the 32-20 Winchester cartridge. I am using a RCBS 98gr. .311 Bullet for my pistol loads. It has two grooves one for the special SPG Black powder lube and the top groove for the crimp. The other bullet is a NOE 115gr FN-PB .314...
  5. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    SAAMI I understand is what reloading manufactures model there specifications for dies and concurrently brass manufactures such as Remington and others design and produce shells for reloading. I bought 250 brass casing from Remington and measured the shell casing per the case measurements given...
  6. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    To: Driftwood Johnson, Wow, that is some post. On the barrel is Pat. Apr. 9,89, March 27,94, May 31,95, July 18,95, Aug.4,96, Dec.22,96, Oct.4,98,Oct.08,01, Dec.17,01. My S&W has a serial on the base of the handle 17925* and on the cylinder 17925 and on the cylinder hinge seen when the chamber...
  7. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Talked to Mike the tech at Old Eynsford. He mentioned that the CTG early on was a balloon CTG. He explained that the CTG would accept powder into and around the rim on the CTG. The CTG would accept the full 20 grains of BP given the additional room around the rim. I guess that is how they made...
  8. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Thanks, My dad had an old Belding and Mull we used when we were kids and all together. Thanks for bringing back that memory.
  9. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    What are you using to measure powder before you pour it into the shell casing. Also do you lube your casing to put the primer or bullet in. Also how do you tell how much pressure you are putting when loadng the bullett.
  10. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Is there a specific pistol primer that you use. I searched Redding 32-20 reloading dies and found ones that are called Deluxe Die Set for Bottle Neck Cases. It is a three piece set. I believe the expert eariler mentioned -compression die- I assume he was referencing the Full Length Sizer...
  11. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Hope you enjoyed the historical black powder science paper. I'll switch to the Lyman you recommended.
  12. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    What is meant by a tubular magazine rifle using a round nose or a flat nose. A pistol is rifled along with a rifle rifling. Is it the length of the barrel or just something our daddys' told us we all came to believe was correct. My gut says the flat nose is better for accuracy since it has...
  13. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/05/03/guest-post-32-20-wcf-the-first-magnum-pistol-cartridge/ If the orginal load for the 32-20 was interchangable between rifle and gun then the flat nose solid lead bullet would be the best choice for the cowboy...
  14. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    How did you make the rifle rounds hotter. I read somewhere that only flat nose bullets should be used in 32-20 BP pistol ammo. http://www.chuckhawks.com/muzzleloading_pressure.htm Good luck with your Uberti Cattleman revolver.
  15. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Thanks for the replies. Wonderful and impressive. One other issue is when reloading pistol ammo is a specific pistol primer used and with the rifle is a specific rifle primer used. Also has there been any data on comparing BP loads vs smokeless loads. The problem I understand is that there is...
  16. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Thanks for the video. From what I have read, reloaders like yourself complain that the 32-20 is very difficult to load. The brass has a shoulder and is very thin causing casing to rupture or foul while reloading. Also stated, only solid lead flat nose bullets only not conical or pointed can be...
  17. heloderm

    Early 32-20 S&W pistol ammo reloading with black powder

    Is it possible to load the 32-20 pistol ammo using the 20 grains of BP. I have a vintage 32-20 S&W pistol dated at or before the 1900's. Is it possible using new brass with pistol primers with between a 80 to 100 grain lead bullet. Is there any difference between BP in that day compared to BP...
  18. heloderm

    32-20 S&W pistol ammo

    I have tried and failed finding information about the correct ammo for my gun. I have a early S&W pistol 32-20. I have found the the 32 of course is the caliber and the 20 stands for the amount of BP grains used for the load. The bullets I have been able to find are stamped 32-20 but I am...
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