I am an Appleseed instructor as well and I see a lot of 22s on the line. I mean a lot! I always thought the 10/22 were good little plinkers. However, seeing them on the line a couple times a month over the last couple of year has impressed me that they are accurate and reliable in all kinds of conditions. We work them hard at Appleseed and properly set up with decent sights/scope they are probably the best out of the box training rifle for the money you can get.
10-22 pros and cons
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Cheap and fun with a decent scope can be very accurate with decent ammo. Last year I bought a stock 1983 Sporter, put a 4-16 Redfield on it and @ 50 yards I can keep 5 shots within a Silver Dollar with Mini Mags @ 70% of the time in good conditions. I have seen other stock 10/22's do better, some worse.
I'd buy a 10-22T as a first 10-22, provided you are fit enough to hold it offhand comfortably. I don't like the carbine stock at all. It doesn't fit me and I hate barrel bands.
As imperfect and difficult to fully clean as they are, they're a great rifle to own. They're easily modified in stages to either be very accurate, or just as "sexy" as anyone would want. With nearly every modification, the owner gets rewarded with a "new" rifle, often at much lower cost than buying a whole new one.
Everyone should own at least one 10-22 in their lifetime. Why not buy it now?
As imperfect and difficult to fully clean as they are, they're a great rifle to own. They're easily modified in stages to either be very accurate, or just as "sexy" as anyone would want. With nearly every modification, the owner gets rewarded with a "new" rifle, often at much lower cost than buying a whole new one.
Everyone should own at least one 10-22 in their lifetime. Why not buy it now?
Old judge creek
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True words!
I have one. I couldn't rest until I had one in my battery. Yet I DISLIKE the 10/22 and here's why:
I don't like the ill fitting, clunky stocks... PERIOD. I think they're bulky, oversized, over weight, lacking sling swivel posts, etc. Of course the "bulk" is the result of making the piece wide enough to accommodate the superb Ruger rotary magazine.
OTOH: the 10/22 is reliable to a fault. Mine eats anything I feed it with no failures to feed, fire or extract. And it's more accurate than I can hold it... so what's for me to dislike? :banghead:
My 10/22 is stainless with the boat paddle stock. It wears a Williams peep sight and is darn close to indestructible.
Sadly, it's a safe queen.
I have other 22 rifles that are easier for me to stash in my gear and take along because 99.9% of the time, 22s are for fun on my ranch and when I'm out in the high desert. That means that I have a serious long gun with me and the 22 has to be stowed in amongst my gear.
Four of the five 22s I use are "take-down" models: Browning 22 SA, Marlin 1897 Cowboy, and Taurus M62 & M72. All of these readily stow inside my ATV bag (or in a knapsack). And because I'm a lever gunner, my favorite 22 rifle is the Browning BLR with the short lever throw.
As well, there are probably more aftermarket parts and accessories available for the 10/22 than most of all the other 22 rifles combined. That didn't happen because the 10/22 was anything other than a superb rifle to begin with.
So what's wrong with my 10/22? Not a darn thing, except that the others fit my personal needs and sense of esthetics better --- and the 10/22 quietly sits in my safe awaiting the day I might need it.
IMO, every man needs a GOOD 22 rifle. The 10/22 will fill that niche beautifully and if it were the only one I owned, I'd be glad to have it.
True words!
I have one. I couldn't rest until I had one in my battery. Yet I DISLIKE the 10/22 and here's why:
I don't like the ill fitting, clunky stocks... PERIOD. I think they're bulky, oversized, over weight, lacking sling swivel posts, etc. Of course the "bulk" is the result of making the piece wide enough to accommodate the superb Ruger rotary magazine.
OTOH: the 10/22 is reliable to a fault. Mine eats anything I feed it with no failures to feed, fire or extract. And it's more accurate than I can hold it... so what's for me to dislike? :banghead:
My 10/22 is stainless with the boat paddle stock. It wears a Williams peep sight and is darn close to indestructible.
Sadly, it's a safe queen.
I have other 22 rifles that are easier for me to stash in my gear and take along because 99.9% of the time, 22s are for fun on my ranch and when I'm out in the high desert. That means that I have a serious long gun with me and the 22 has to be stowed in amongst my gear.
Four of the five 22s I use are "take-down" models: Browning 22 SA, Marlin 1897 Cowboy, and Taurus M62 & M72. All of these readily stow inside my ATV bag (or in a knapsack). And because I'm a lever gunner, my favorite 22 rifle is the Browning BLR with the short lever throw.
As well, there are probably more aftermarket parts and accessories available for the 10/22 than most of all the other 22 rifles combined. That didn't happen because the 10/22 was anything other than a superb rifle to begin with.
So what's wrong with my 10/22? Not a darn thing, except that the others fit my personal needs and sense of esthetics better --- and the 10/22 quietly sits in my safe awaiting the day I might need it.
IMO, every man needs a GOOD 22 rifle. The 10/22 will fill that niche beautifully and if it were the only one I owned, I'd be glad to have it.
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The new 10 22s stovepipe like crazy. Alot of people have reported problems with it stove piping.
I bought one brand new, and it stovepipe's every 3 or so rounds. I changed out the extractor so hopefully it will clear it out.
I now wish I would have gotten a used one instead.
I bought one brand new, and it stovepipe's every 3 or so rounds. I changed out the extractor so hopefully it will clear it out.
I now wish I would have gotten a used one instead.
Captains1911
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That right there may be the problem. Leave it dry and the gunk won't build up as easily.
MedWheeler
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Tony, congrats on your new gun. Be aware that a break-in period might be needed and, until it is broken in, it might not be especially reliable with bulk ammo. I don't want you to be disappointed or disillusioned with the 10/22 without giving it a chance. To see right away what fun you can have with it, pick up a few boxes of CCI MiniMags.
The Ruger BX-25 magazine typically retails for between 25 and 30 bucks. However, unloading it (in "lead acceleration" mode) is far more fun than loading it.
The Ruger BX-25 magazine typically retails for between 25 and 30 bucks. However, unloading it (in "lead acceleration" mode) is far more fun than loading it.
gunsandreligion
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Pros: very customizeable.
Very sturdy and straightforward design.
Very easy to dissasemble/reassemble, especially compared to any other semi 22.
Generaly quite reliable and accurate out of the box.
Holds resale value quite well.
Cons:can quickly become a money pit.
You can also get crank operated magazine loaders and the like that are generaly only availabe for 10/22s because of their popularity. If you want to use iron sights, i would strongly recomend tech sights.
Very sturdy and straightforward design.
Very easy to dissasemble/reassemble, especially compared to any other semi 22.
Generaly quite reliable and accurate out of the box.
Holds resale value quite well.
Cons:can quickly become a money pit.
You can also get crank operated magazine loaders and the like that are generaly only availabe for 10/22s because of their popularity. If you want to use iron sights, i would strongly recomend tech sights.
MedWheeler
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Tony, I couldn't tell you how many rounds for break in, especially of "bulk" ammo. Might be a couple hundred or so, but you'll have fun and not break the bank doing so. MiniMags wil break it in a lot faster. Also, most .22 firearms "adapt" to a specific round after about 40-50 rounds or so, and accuracy settles in for that round. Change the round, and they sometimes need to do it again. See this thread:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=647428
The way most of us shoot, however (including me), we wouldn't even notice it.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=647428
The way most of us shoot, however (including me), we wouldn't even notice it.
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I have that same stock on on with a 17 inch aluminum barrel. My only complaint is the quick disconnect lugs wore out over time and won't stay in with tension on them. But that's the one we shoot ping pong ball off of golf tees 350 feet from the porch.I love mine.
I can not say anything bad about it.
The only problem that is not really a problem is with the low velocity ammo
sometimes it will cycle and most times it won't , but it is not supposed .
I had to post a pic because I love it so much.
Elkins45
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I would rather clean the trigger group on a 10/22 than on a Marlin 60. My first 22 auto was a Glenfield 60 and it needed a thorough 'de-gunking' a lot more frequently than my 10/22 and it takes more than just punching out a couple of pins to take the Marlin apart.
Having said that, I'm a big fan of both. It all comes down to whether you want a tube or mag fed rifle. One plus in favor of the Ruger is that it's a lot easier to do a trigger job on it, and the procedure is well documented on the web.
Having said that, I'm a big fan of both. It all comes down to whether you want a tube or mag fed rifle. One plus in favor of the Ruger is that it's a lot easier to do a trigger job on it, and the procedure is well documented on the web.
If you really want to see what a 10/22 can do when used as a real rifle, (ie, service type rifle) take yours to an Appleseed. There is a reason they are so popular at Appleseed. It is the perfect place to wring it out. Heck of a lot of fun as well.
10/22s make excellent training rifles for the big boy rifles.
10/22s make excellent training rifles for the big boy rifles.
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Mac what is that muzzle atachment on the 10-22 there? It makes it look like a m14!
I finally broke down and bought one (old used stainless rifle) and have been trying to minimize unnecessary extras i have
Hogue stock
Speed beez;
Auto bolt release
Mag release
Tech sights
Black aumahyde ii painted
Shot pretty good for me 1.5" at fifty rested with the tech sights
I finally broke down and bought one (old used stainless rifle) and have been trying to minimize unnecessary extras i have
Hogue stock
Speed beez;
Auto bolt release
Mag release
Tech sights
Black aumahyde ii painted
Shot pretty good for me 1.5" at fifty rested with the tech sights
Brought it out today! What a fun rifle! I had a box of cci mini mags, and a federal auto match 325 count put about 250 rounds through it today. The federal stopped it from cycling the first round twice as it got hung up in the chamber. But i am impressed love the rifle thanks for all the advise guys!
Old judge creek
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Well, congratulations! You can't really go wrong with a 10/22.
Enjoy!
Enjoy!
The_Armed_Therapist
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Cons...
1) You usually have to pay.
2) It isn't completely weightless.
3) They don't make 1,000 round mags for it.
HAHAHA... I don't even consider or recommend .22 rifles besides the 10/22. Perfect gun for it's purposes.
1) You usually have to pay.
2) It isn't completely weightless.
3) They don't make 1,000 round mags for it.
HAHAHA... I don't even consider or recommend .22 rifles besides the 10/22. Perfect gun for it's purposes.
Stevie-Ray
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Pro: They fit in a Bunting Bullpup
Con: Ammo for them isn't quite free
Con: Ammo for them isn't quite free
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