10mm ammo or any ammo

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OK, here is my gripe/question. I own 2 10mm pistols. I love the round. What I cannot understand is why it is so hard to find 10mm ammo or any ammo for that matter.. The law of supply and demand should solve this. If it's all selling, make more. If we can't, then how bout the Russians? I'm fairly new to pistols so it's hard for me to understand. I don't expect to walk into Wal-Mart and buy 10mm. But it should be available at gun shops and online. My gun shop will have TONS of stuff like "22-250 or 25-06". I mean why do they have 50 different calibers of rifle ammo but very limited pistol ammo? Can someone help me understand this?
 
You said it yourself--supply and demand. MOST stores will carry a lot of hunting rifle ammo, because thats what they sell the most of. 10mm, while not a real oddball, is not one of the most common of pistol calibers, and therefore doesn't sell like 9mm, .38 .357 and .45 does (just limited examples) or like the common hunting rifle rounds. Too, its my understanding that a large number of those who DO own 10mm handguns reload, therefore further reducing the demand for the round in stores. Unless the 10mm becomes more popular (quite possible, IMO) I wouldn't expect to see a lot of 10mm ammo on store shelves. It can be found, but it won't ever be as common as more well established, familiar rounds. Stores stock what they can sell, and until the 10mm becomes as popular as other rounds, fewer stores will carry it. You summed it up in your 5th sentence...its ALL about supply and demand. The "demand" just isn't there right now
 
I actually have the Opposite problem.

After years of not shooting it much, I recently sold my 10mm.

I still have over 600 rounds of hand-loaded and factory JHP ammo, but
I'd like to sell it for the brass.

People could pull 100 bullets a day and have a great pile of shiny Starline or Winchester 10mm brass ,

However..no one wants to sign a liability waiver, and I'm sure that
it can and would get shot through someone's gun.

Plenty safe for me and my Witness, as I never was one to hot rod
loads, but other people might have a problem.

Finding factory ammo is not a problem in my area, either.

I wish Taurus would offer a decent priced revolver in 10mm.
 
I don't know, the last time some local stores got some in it was sold quickly. They had a whole stack of it and it was gone within a week.

It seems to sell fairly quickly recently but they are slow to replace it.

My guess is that while it is selling just fine now, so are many other calibers. The same machinery probably makes other rounds that are in high demand in even larger quantities.
They can only make so much ammo, and they are focusing on certain rounds.
 
The ammo market has been very up and down since we got involved in Iraq and Afghanistan. Clinton closed all the government run ammo factories so now the military buys its ammo from commercial makers. The high-government contracts are eating up all the primers, lead, copper, etc., that would normally supply the civilian market.

Then there is China's development of about 100 nuclear plants nearly using all of the worldwide production of lead each year for about 10 years.

Things have been very hit and miss of late.

I picked up 500 rounds of new 10mm brass last week just because it was available.

Yesterday I bought 1,000 small pistol primers even though I'm not low on them. But, when I saw the guy unpacking the order and stamping the boxes at $29 I grabbed a box on GP. I also bought a 50-round box of .357 SD ammo because it was under $30.

You have to be vigilant and snag what you need when you see it. Cash isn't the only thing in short supply these days...
 
If you are a 10mm shooter, your best bet is to make the initial investment of buying a set up to load your own. It will pay for itself shortly.

I refuse to pay upwards of $30 a box for Remington UMC 180 gr. 10mm loads. That is what i can find it for locally. I can make 50 rounds for about half that with brand new never fired brass....then if I use the brass again, it ends up being pennies the second and third go around.
 
If you are a 10mm shooter, your best bet is to make the initial investment of buying a set up to load your own. It will pay for itself shortly.

I refuse to pay upwards of $30 a box for Remington UMC 180 gr. 10mm loads. That is what i can find it for locally. I can make 50 rounds for about half that with brand new never fired brass....then if I use the brass again, it ends up being pennies the second and third go around.
I guess I will have to get into reloading.
 
Get into reloading and don't look back. Once you get started and figure out what you are doing (not very difficult if I can do it LOL) you will wonder why you didn't start reloading a long time ago.

Love the 10MM by the way, that's my next toy on my list.
 
Ammo in general is going up, and shooting anything that's not as mainstream will be more expensive.

In general, going forward I've decided that aside from what I currently have, most of my new handguns will be .22LR or 9mm Luger. Everything else just costs too much for me to feed.
 
Here's the thing: 10mm, like .380, is a low demand product in normal times so the brass manufacturers have a set schedule of production based on the normal demand. When there's a spike in demand, they need to keep producing the items that sell more volume than the others. You think the demand for 10mm and .380 are bad, the more popular ones like 9mm, .40, and .45 are worse. More demand, more supply is needed for those. The machines that normally draw .380 and 10mm brass are being used to make the 9/40/45 brass instead. They will make longer runs of the .380 brass and 10mm brass but instead of running them once every two months they are running them once every 3-4 months and a week longer production than normal times.

9/40/45 will always come first no matter what. The 9mm and .45 are very popular for civilians and the military uses the 9mm. Law enforcement overwhelmingly uses the .40 caliber. Those will always be in higher demand and will get priority over everything else.

I'm still waiting on my back order of 20,000 pieces each of .380 and 10mm brass from Starline that was supposed to be delivered before Thanksgiving 2009. The very few once fired brass I've been able to find has been loaded and sold immediately. I just got a few hundred .380 brass I'm loading up to sell to the local gun shop. They buy all the .357, 10mm, and .380 I can load for them. Hell, I dropped off a cast of .45 FMJ yesterday at 3pm and they called 10 minutes ago and said they already sold out.
 
I still have over 600 rounds of hand-loaded and factory JHP ammo, but
I'd like to sell it for the brass.

Did you list it anywhere? What do you have and what do you want for it?
 
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