12 gauge reduced recoil #1 buckshot loads?

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Hi all,

I'm researching shotgun ammunition specifically for home defense. I really like the idea of reduced recoil loads by Federal and Remington. However, I can only seem to find them in 00 and #4 buckshot. Does anyone make a reduced recoil #1 buckshot load?

If not, how much different would Federal's 2 3/4 Power*Shok #1 Buck (F127) feel versus Federal's Power*Shock 2 3/4 Low Recoil 00 Buck (H132)?

I've already purchased 3 or 4 different type of loads and will be testing/patterning them to see which I prefer. I just haven't found any reduced recoil #1 buck loads yet, and would like to find some since it seems like #1 buck is the most highly recommended HD load out there.

Thanks for any insight you can provide.

Chris
 
Any full power buck load will feel significantly bumpier than any reduced power load--the fact that the balls are smaller will make not a whit of difference, since there will be enough of them, typically, to make up the difference in mass.

I'm unaware of any reduced-power #1 buck load; but I'll be interested to hear of one if someone else knows of it! I keep my 870 stoked with Estate reduced-recoil #4 for inside-the-house use, with full-on 12-pellet 00 on the sidesaddle should I either run out (of ammo) or run out (of the house). Slugs in a buttcuff.
 
Would that the powers that be among the ammo companies paid attention to what customers wanted. Often it's hard enough to find full house #1 buck loads. I don't know of anyone who loads RR #1, just 00, 000 and #4 buck and slugs.

I'd like to see it too...

lpl/nc
 
Lee, in case you're having trouble finding #1 buck...

I just ordered some Federal 2 3/4 Power*Shok #1 Buck from Natchez for $2.95 per box of 5. AbleAmmo has some Remington Express #1 Buck for $2.67 per box of 5.

Chris
 
Midwayusa has some #1 buck loads (full power) in the $3 a box range. Finding anything other than 00 (and sometimes #4) buckshot locally is a challenge.
 
Corporate dis-interest

Lee Lapin said:
Would that the powers that be among the ammo companies paid attention to what customers wanted. ... I don't know of anyone who loads RR #1... I'd like to see it too...
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Me too, Lee.

Given that several reviews like this one favor #1 buck for SD, one would hope that the corportations would eventually get the message.

Oh, no, wait: the key word is 'corporation'. They're not interested in customer input, only profit. :fire:

Never mind. Move along. Nothing to see here. Move along...

Nem
 
A couple things....

Right now, much production of buck focuses on military use. Our folks in Iraq and Afghanistan are using 00. Would that we could get them to try out some 1 buck.

Like the authors of the cited studies and others, I believe that 1 buck offers the best compromise between pellet count and pellet mass for most defensive use. I do NOT regard 1 buck as greatly superior to 00 and there's still 00 in my HD 870s.

Until the present hostilities are over, I doubt we'll see many advances in buck technology nor improvement in 1 buck availability.

I would like to see a 1 oz weight 1 buck load for HD, but I'm not holding my breath....
 
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I would like to see a 1 oz weight 1 buck load for HD, but I'm not holding my breath....
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That sounds like something sm might have put together and a darn good idea.
 
He may have, but I've been experimenting with light loads for a while. I did a thread a while back on 6 pellet 00 loads.

An oz of 1s make sense. Still something like what, 16 pellets?
 
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He may have, but I've been experimenting with light loads for a while. I did a thread a while back on 6 pellet 00 loads.

An oz of 1s make sense. Still something like what, 16 pellets?
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I agree: you keep the acceptable penetration and pattern density of a full 00 buck load for HD use without the full recoil.

I don't know that sm loaded anything like that, it just sounds like something he would have tried if he had thought about it.
 
Dave McCracken said:
He may have, but I've been experimenting with light loads for a while. I did a thread a while back on 6 pellet 00 loads.

An oz of 1s make sense. Still something like what, 16 pellets?
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Ah, I can see it now... <day dream>

<Silky smooth announcer voice on a commercial between Keifer Chevy & Burger King>

"Tired of dealing with that bruising 12 ga? Can't find the most recommended HD rounds in reduced recoil? Big ammo makers won't accomodate you?

"McCracken Ammo is proud to announce, reduced recoil #1 buckshot.

Takes out the BG, but not your shoulder.

Order yours TODAY!

1-800-McC-AMMO."
 
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(Wiping off keyboard).....

Thanks, Nem, you just made my morn. If I do develop this, I'll employ you as a Beta Tester....
 
Dave McCracken said:
He may have, but I've been experimenting with light loads for a while. I did a thread a while back on 6 pellet 00 loads.

An oz of 1s make sense. Still something like what, 16 pellets?
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The standard 2 3/4" #1 buck load is 16 pellets, a 1 oz load would be 10 pellets.

Chuck
 
Dave McCracken said:
(Wiping off keyboard).....

Thanks, Nem, you just made my morn. If I do develop this, I'll employ you as a Beta Tester....
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Glad to brighten your morning with a bit of humor, Dave.

For you, sir, I'd gladly do the Beta testing for free. It would be an honor & a pleasure. ;)

Nem
 
I finally decided to order some #1 buckshot to make my own LR loads. I was going to use 12 pellets to start out which will still have a lot of recoil. 12 pellets is about 1 1/8 oz.
 
Would it be possible to assemble a low-recoil load in a cut-down shell, say 2.5 or 2" and increase your magazine capacity? That's the load I'd like to see.
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Search for Aguila mini shells. They don't feed through everything, however.
 
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