1858 extra cylinders

[TheBigAR2003]

i have been considering getting an extra cylinder for my pietta 1858.
i have the points on my cabelas club card to get out outright.
i was wondering who has had experience with buying extra cylinders
for their pietta 58's?
it doesnt seem like they need to be timed.
any help would be appreciated
thanks

 

[arcticap]

I haven't heard of any problems with the fit of a Pietta/Cabela's replacement cylinder for any modern made Pietta 1858.
Everyone has usually always commented that theirs have fit fine.
The only exception might be if there was a change in the width of the bolt [or bolt notch] from a much older gun and even then, I can't say whether that's ever been an issue or one worth worrying about since it can always be returned.

 

[TheBigAR2003]

well my 58 is only a year or so from brand new dont know the manufacture date

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

I found out that my Remington (Pietta) 1858 New Model Army (both of them) Target Models cylinders would work in my other 58's. BUT the cylinders in the other 3 '58's and all of my extra cylinders would NOT cycle properly in the Target Models although they would fit in there good. The gunsmith had to send both of the Target Models to Pietta to get the extra cylinders fitted to the revolvers and then he did the rest of the tuning up when he got them back. Now both of the Target Models will interchange cylinders (along with 4 extra cylinders for the Target Models) with each other all day long but the other extra cylinders just simply will not work properly in them. The other 3 '58's will all interchange with each other, even the stainless into the blued and the blued into the stainless. I checked them myself after the gunsmith had already checked them....I guess this post didn't make much sense but it didn't to me either but I know it's the truth....

 

[BHP FAN]

My Cabelas .36 Pietta Remingtons each have a spare cylinder, and each works just fine.

 

[denster]

You don't time a cylinder you set the timing with the hand. If the cylinder was manufactured correctly for your gun it will work, acknowledging arcticaps statement about checking the bolt fit, the indexing will be correct. I have four extra cylinders for my two Pietta 58's and all 6 cylinders will interchange flawlessly. Interestingly you can use a Pietta cyinder with Uberti open top Colts with small modifications as the Pietta cyinder is a little long, the indexing however is right on as is the arbor diameter and arbor center to bore center.

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Well, all I know is that for instance one could take the cylinder from a Target Model and insert it into like the one I have a picture of on here somewhere and it would work flawlessly. But I could take the cylinder out of the one I pictured on here (And any one of the other cylinders in the other 2 '58's and the extra cylinders for them and they would NOT work properly in the Target Models. They all would interchange with each other but not with the Target Models. I have to keep the Target Model Cylinders separate from the other cylinders, but hell that's no problem. I don't shoot the Target Models anyway. (Don't ask me what I'm saving them for; I have no idea) PLUS, I have to keep ALL of the Pietta cylinders separate from the ones for the Remington (Uberti) .44 Cattleman's Carbine because they won't interchange either, although they will among themselves....

 

[forestdavegump]

I was concerneed at one time as well, but it seems that the spare cylinders I have got seem to work very well. The timeing seems right on an they seem to function flawlessly!

 

[denster]

GOTC. That is unusual. My spare cylinders worked fine in the target model that I used to have. What is it that yours are doing? Does the hand not pick up the cylinder or does it not carry it all the way to lockup? I'm curious.
It doesn't surprise me that the Pietta cylinders don't work in the Uberti 58s. I've never owned a Ubereti 58 so I've never checked the cylinder differences.

 

[Bluehawk]

I purchased a Pietta New Army Police Remington in .36 caliber a few months ago and a spare cylinder a month later. The spare fits and functions perfectly.

 

[Palehorseman]

My Pietta 58 has two spare cylinders, fit, finish and function of spares are indistinguishable from the original that came with the pistol.

I also have a .45 LC conversion cylinder that works great, all were just drop in's with no fitting required.

 

[arcticap]

My spare cylinder works fine with my target model.

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Well, my extra cylinders for the 3 '58's look good and work good to just as long as I keep them away from my Target Models. The extra cylinders for the Target Models work good in the Target Models to after the gunsmith sent them off and had the extra cylinders fitted to them. They're all extremely accurate way past what an old man like me is capable of and that's all I know about the deal. The gunsmith know's for sure but I 'm afraid to try and repeat anything he told me that time because I don't remember for sure and might get it wrong. Then I would catch hell on here....

 

[ZZZ]

I had trouble putting my '58 C&B and conversion cylinders in my '58 stainless target model too. They fit, but don't work right. They all interchange fine in my non-target '58s though.

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

ZZZ, I damn sure believe you. Both of my Target Models are blued. I do have the one stainless but it is not the Target Model....

 

[madcratebuilder]

I picked up two spare Pietta cylinders from a board member. They fit three of my 58's and time correct. A drop in replacement.

 

[wittzo]

The only way I can tell my SS regular model's (not Target) two extra cylinders from the original is by the proof marks on it's face.

I guess from this thread you can say that if you have a regular model with regular sights, it will drop in just fine. If you have a Target model, you might have problems.

How about using a blued cylinder in a stainless pistol or vice versa? I thought about saving $100 by getting a blued cylinder..but changed my mind immediately.

The R&D/Taylor's stainless conversion cylinder works perfectly, too.

 

[GENTLEMAN OF THE CHARCOAL]

Witzzo, I have 2 color case hardened with laser checkered grips and one stainless which I refer to as my 'regular' '58's. I have 2 extra cylinders for the stainless and another 4 extra cylinders for the color hardened. All six of these cylinders plus the ones which came in the three (3) will all interchange into and out of each one of the three and work properly. None of these will function in a satisfactory manner in the two (2) Target Models even though they will insert perfectly and remove perfectly. When I would insert one of the 6 into either one of the Targets it would shoot but something just never did feel right or something. I can't explain it. The gunsmith told me my 2 Target Models were built to closer tolerences than my other 3. That may be so, I don't know and don't pretend to. However, I know he know's..The cylinders that came in the 2 Targets worked perfectly in either gun..He worked on my guns from one end to the other, especially the '58's, all of them. I know the 4 extra cylinders for the Target Models were fitted to the revolvers by the company. This sh** didn't just happen last week. We're talking about years ago and I don't like to think about all those years and the wasted ass money it cost me. Well, not really wasted. I figured he and his wife could use the money and he is my friend and I alway's figured that if I couldn't be rich or famous, and that I would have to work for a living then at least By God I could go through this world with a few good guns. So, anyway, now you know the rest of the story....

 

[arcticap]

That's the kind of story that I'd figure to hear from a feller who buys a surplus GI stove with a free 1st Generation Colt hidden in the box and then he doesn't even open the box for so many years before he finds it.
Life is just constantly giving GOTC the old razzamitazz!

 

[wittzo]

Maybe that's why they made those pistols Target models..like the Winchester '73 and the Colt Delta Elite HBAR's. They showed promise, so they gave them the adjustable sights. Those had tight tolerances to make up for the sloppy ones in the lot.

I sort of want to get a stainless target model, but I know where my regular model hits and I know it's reliable and I've got cylinders that I know will work for it. Plus, if I get a Target model, I'll ignore the other one and I don't want to hurt it's feelings.

 

[madcratebuilder]

I guess from this thread you can say that if you have a regular model with regular sights, it will drop in just fine. If you have a Target model, you might have problems.

My cylinders fit between my standard and target model Piettas. The only difference between the standard and target model I have is the machining for the adjustable rear sight.

My spare Pietta cylinders do not fit my Shooters model Piettas. Everything about the "Shooters Model" is different, barrel, cylinder, grips and frame.

 

[messerist]

GOTC you ain't gonna let Arcticap git away wit dat er ya? And you can never have too many "58s"!