3 Swords vs hammers and 1 handgun

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They are saying that the sword weldiers could face charges. I don’t know anything about stand your ground laws in Canada. I would think in most states these guys would be heroes.
That isn't what the article says at all. What it says is: "anyone who chooses to try to fight an intruder may face charges if their actions are seen as excessive."

This is the same standard as most places. If you use excessive force, you can be charged with a crime
 
No, like 9mm said, they warned others that there could be consequences, not these gentlemen.
I believe that will be the case. The story seemed like it would be possible they would be charged not likely. They did apparently get to keep their swords. I know that without those swords the armed robbers would have left with some jewelry.
 
The story seemed like it would be possible they would be charged not likely
You've read the article incorrectly and apparently hso's comment also.

The victims of this robbery are not being charged...because they did not use excessive force to repel the attack

The statement by the spokesperson was that if excessive force were use, charges could result. The reference is to future attacks being warded off with counter-violence.

The statement is very clear...these are Canadians. I'm not sure how you could be reading it otherwise.
 
Cops in both countries, when interviewed by press, will almost always say not to use force/weapons/violence in defense. I've seen that remark get made plenty in the states (e.g. police officers that testified my state legislature against concealed carry permits). They do this because of risks of escalation etc, but also because citizens defending themselves deeply threatens the cop's identity and ego. It doesn't necessary reflect the law in that area.
 
You've read the article incorrectly and apparently hso's comment also.

The victims of this robbery are not being charged...because they did not use excessive force to repel the attack

The statement by the spokesperson was that if excessive force were use, charges could result. The reference is to future attacks being warded off with counter-violence.

The statement is very clear...these are Canadians. I'm not sure how you could be reading it otherwise.
I’m sure your right I didn’t read the whole story correctly. Wouldn’t be the 1st time for me. Either way I thought it was an interesting story and wanted to share it.
 
Cops in both countries, when interviewed by press, will almost always say not to use force/weapons/violence in defense. I've seen that remark get made plenty in the states (e.g. police officers that testified my state legislature against concealed carry permits). They do this because of risks of escalation etc, but also because citizens defending themselves deeply threatens the cop's identity and ego. It doesn't necessary reflect the law in that area.
That sounds pretty much like a blanket statement. You didn't qualify it by saying some, or a few, so I guess you include all LEO's. I don't know what psychological research you've personally conducted with strictly law enforcement officers, how large the study was, or what your academic credentials are, but let me skew your numbers a little. When I was working, I personally was glad when citizens fought back. There, I've said it. And shockingly, I never felt my ego threatened. I don't make this as a blanket statement, only as it applied to me. But although having done absolutely no research other than anecdotal conversations with a few LEO's, I have a feeling it might apply to others as well.

Quoting your included article on narcissism, well I guess everyone is part of some group. Like you, someone who makes blanket statements about another group. If you're a LEO, well, I guess that puts you in another group, cops who make statements about cops.

You might say my response is indicative of something, perhaps ego related, but then, of course, the same might apply to you. I've read your paper on weapon laws, found it to be well written. This blanket statement, well, I guess I've said what I'm going to say. I guess it's time to put my asbestos suit on.....
 
I'd be interested in knowing what type of swords were used. At first glance, those appear to be cheap Indian Talwar swords. In fact I would not be surprised if the jewelers were themselves Indian or Pakistani.

A Japanese Katana would be more fearsome.
 
The story seemed like it would be possible they would be charged

I didn't take it that way. It was clear to me that the jewelry store folks were not at any risk of prosecution. The officer indicated their actions were reasonable. It was the "talking head" that conveyed that others needed to be cautious of how and when an aggressive response was in order.
 
It would be great if Greg Ellifritz gathered data on defensive blades uses.

I think what we saw here was a "psychological stop" :thumbup:
 
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