30-06 Loads (Hornady Manual)

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I'm new to reloading and I'm working on my first set of rounds. I'm a little short on cash to buy a Hornady reloading manual but plan to soon because I really like what I hear about the 165g SST for deer hunting. Can someone look in their Hornady manual and hit me up with load recipes for these powders? I swear I'll buy the manual when I get paid next :)

Here is what I have available :

Shell : 30-06
Primer : CCI Large rifle primer
Bullet : Hornady SST 165g
Powders : H4350 and IMR 4007 SSC

Thanks!
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pleopard said:
I'm new to reloading and I'm working on my first set of rounds. I'm a little short on cash to buy a Hornady reloading manual but plan to soon because I really like what I hear about the 165g SST for deer hunting. Can someone look in their Hornady manual and hit me up with load recipes for these powders? I swear I'll buy the manual when I get paid next :)

Here is what I have available :

Shell : 30-06
Primer : CCI Large rifle primer
Bullet : Hornady SST 165g
Powders : H4350 and IMR 4007 SSC

Thanks!
P
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I don't normally do this because I'm afraid of typos but....................

From the Hornady 7th Edition

Max C.O.L 3.230"
Fed 210 Primer but you'll be okay with CCI LR
H4350 48.0 gr min. - 58.9 gr max

IMR 4007ssc - No listing
The Hodgdon website shows a load using IMR 4007ssc as 49 gr min. - 52.4 gr max. This is for a 165 gr Hornady GMax bullet but the data will transfer over just start at the minimum.
Since you're using different primers, start at the minimum and work up from there.



BUY A MANUAL OR 3
 
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howlnmad: Thanks man!

DeadFlies: Wow, I haven't been to the library since Google was invented ... Good idea, thanks!
 
Yes, I have that link and I have 5 digital copies of various manuals plus a hard copy of another ... I wanted the load from Hornady's book since none of those I have explicity specify the SST bullet
 
I'm not home today but if someone doesn't post the data you're looking for from the newest Hornady manual by tomorrow I will when I get back home.
I wanted the load from Hornady's book since none of those I have explicity specify the SST bullet.
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If you go by wanting data foe each specific bullet you load from different companies you are going to spend A LOT of money on manuals. Usually if you use data for a bullet of the same weight and profile you will be fine. The fairly new exception, those all Copper or Copper Alloy bullets which are now on the market.

There are currently new editions from Hornady, Berger, Nosler, Speer, Lyman, Sierra, Barnes, Lee, Lapua, and probably a few more.

If you want more than 1 manual (and you should) I suggest Lyman's 49th Edition Manual, Hornady's 9th Edition Manual and Nosler's 7th Edition Manual. If you are going to load a lot of Lead bullets the Lyman 4th Edition Cast Bullet Handbook is a must buy. (IMO of course) Those are just my choices. If you load mostly Sierra bullets or Berger bullets buy their load manual instead. I would not however buy a manual for only 1 cartridge and one bullet. They cost too much to do that. (again, IMO)
 
When I reference the new Hornady 9th edition, they lump many of their bullets of the same weight together and give a load charge for the group. I wouldn't get so hung up on a load for a specific bullet after seeing that.

For example....

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This is NOT .30-06 data!
 
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ArchAngelCD said:
If you want more than 1 manual (and you should) I suggest Lyman's 49th Edition Manual, Hornady's 9th Edition Manual and Nosler's 7th Edition Manual.
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Noslers entire manual's data is online now at their website.
 
HexHead said:
Noslers entire manual's data is online now at their website.
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That is good information but a book is also good to have for those times there is no Internet access. I know it's hard to imagine a time where the Internet was not always there but there was such a time and there are also places today where the Internet and even phone access is unavailable.
 
"... I wanted the load from Hornady's book since none of those I have explicity specify the SST bullet"

It doesn't matter, your rifle isn't the same as theirs and that alone can make a much bigger difference than the bullet. Pick your bullet weight and powder type from any manual and "start low. slowly work up to book max but stop if you encounter signs of excessive pressure" and you'll be safe. Ignore that rule and no data is safe.
 
Just for some more data to compare:
Modern Reloading 2nd Edition
165 gr. Jacketed 30-06
IMR 4007 SSC-----start 54.3-2800fps------maximum 55.9-2867 fps
Hodgdon H4350---start 53--2678 fps------maximum 59---2938 fps
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Hornady 9th edition
165 gr SST--oal tested at 3.210"
Win model 70 rifle 23 3/4" barrel
Hornady case--Fed 210 primer
IMR 4007 SSC---start 47.7-2400 fps---51.5-2600---maximum 55.2-2800fps
didn't test H4350
The above copied page is to show how all bullet weights are lumped together showing the same powder charges for all. The above copied page is for .308 Winchester, not 30-06 as the post states.
 
Got my Hornady 9th Edition ... here is the table

Hornady SST 165g 30-06 Loads from Hornady 9th Edition

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I have 2lbs H4350 and 2lbs IMR 4007 SSC to experiment with so I decided to load 20 of each as follows ... I've completed the H4350 loads, working on the 4007

Here are my loads (Hornady SST 165g 30-06 Loads from Hornady 9th Edition)

H4350 : (Loaded)
48.0g / 2400 FPS
50.1g / 2500 FPS
53.2g / 2600 FPS
54.5f / 2700 FPS

IMR 4007 SSC : (Haven't loaded yet)
47.7g / 2400 FPS
49.6g / 2500 FPS
51.5g / 2600 FPS
53.3g / 2700 FPS
 
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Just a brief suggestion for those of you posting pictures of data from load books:

You might consider substituting different pictures or otherwise editing your posts to better reflect the caliber & bullet weight, etc. the data relates to, so as to help prevent new reloaders (or less studious readers) from taking the information out of proper context.

A) The first picture was not for the 30-06; yes, I saw the caption under the pic, but others might not. You could maybe use a larger, BOLD or colored font, etc. to make that stand out..?

B) Was that last table for the 165gr bullet weight? I assume so because that's the subject at hand, but we all know what happens when you do that....

....just a thought. Carry on.
 
A) not my post, nothing I can do about that one

B) point taken, added bold title with all info
 
As always,YMMV
I bought 300 of the 165gr SST's and have loaded over 200-rounds using Varget,H414,IMR4350,and some RL-17.
Honestly I am not impressed with the performance of the SST and am in search of some 168gr A-max's
I have had excellent results with the A-max in other rifles/calibers

Out of all the combinations I tried, 54gr of IMR4350 in Nosler cases,with Federal 210 match primers got my best group of .454 when shot down a 26" ,1:9 twist Douglas barrel
Which is really good for 100-yards, but out at 375-yards, where I practice the most,groups with the SST opened up to almost 6",,
I think the A-max will do better
 
I chose the SST after several guys on another forum applauded it for high accuracy at 50-100 yards while yielding devastating wounds in deer. In my area most deer are killed in the 60-100 yard range and I'm practicing at 100 yards as a result. Could it be that the SST loses accuracy with the longer distances (375 yards) you are shooting?
 
pleopard,
Don't count on getting the velocities listed in the manual, it just doesn't happen in real life. I have gotten the best accuracy from several 165gr and 168gr bullets in the 30-06 using a charge of 58.0gr H4350. All have been sub 1/2MOA @100 yards. Velocity from a 26" barrel averages 2871 with a 58.0gr charge. Of course you will get less velocity from 22" and 24" barrels.
 
I've got 24" barrel, I read that you lose 25FPS per inch and if that's true then we're talking only 50 FPS difference. I want to try heavier loads (56-58g with the H4350 and 55g with the 4007 SSC) but these are the first loads I've ever made so I'm being conservative and backing off from the maxes. Once I pattern these and verify that there are no over pressure signs I'll go the next step and try out the max loads.

Even if I don't get 2800 FPS, that's ok since deer around here are usually taken at 60-100 yards ... I'm just wanting to get to know what my gun likes and find a highly accurate load for it.
 
Finished my IMR 4007 SSC loads last night. Not sure when I'll make it to the range to test everything tho ...

Some pics of my H4350 loads ... Look Ok?

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I see you marked the sleeve with the velocities from the manual. Like I said above, you are not going to get those velocities in real life shooting from a real rifle. The testers use a long pressure barrel under lab conditions.
 
Wife wanted to go to the range yesterday so I took all 40 of the rounds I have made so far. Gotta say I was quite skeired to pull the trigger the first time. But ... 40 pulls later with no evidence of overpressure whatsoever, I have the confidence to up the charges a little and try again. All of my patterns were tight and I was very pleased.

I had a set of 20 rounds using H4350, 5 rounds each for 48.0g, 50.1g, 53.2g, 54.5g

I also had a set of 20 rounds using IMR 4007 SSC, 5 rounds each for 47.7g, 49.6g, 51.5g, 53.3g

I started screwing around with my scope on the H4350 50.1g loads and messed up the whole set so they aren't pictured. Anyway, here are the results ...

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Just an update ... 5 months later and when I rifle hunt all I shoot is the IMR 4007 SSC 51.5g load with the 165g SST. It has proven to be deadly accurate and devastating in effect. So glad I started this hobby ... Thanks for all the tips and help!

I am having trouble finding more of the IMR 4007 SSC powder, anyone know a good source?
 
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