.300 win mag brass

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who’s brass seems to be the most consistent and uniformed out of the box for .300 win mag ? I’ve kind of just got into lr shooting with medium bore rifles and I started with about 100 pieces Of Winchester brass but it just has no consistency in weight so it’s being tossed to fouling shots and break in loads. Any help and opinions would be Much appreciated
 
I just don't know! I don't shoot my 300 Winchesters much anymore and I still have some Winchester brass thats not to bad. I thought about buying 100 RWS cases but thats probably $165 before shipping! There are some new players in the brass game that I'm not familiar with that may make 300 Win brass and I'm hoping Starline will add 300 Win to their lineup. Norma and Nosler both offer 300 Win brass. Hold onto your wallet!
 
I was also going to say Norma or Nosler, Lapua doesn't offer it either. I've not used Norma's or Nosler's brass either but it's supposed to be better than standard production brass from the common suppliers.
 
Nosler and Hornady are what I use for belted mags.

One option, if you really believe weight sorting belted mag brass in these old design cartridges really pays off: buy a whole bunch, weight sort, and resell the rest, or use it as practice ammo.
 
Out of curiosity, how much variation are you seeing?
Rounding up to the nearest grain my run out was 221-232 grains ball park for about 80 pieces 19 pieces that where 234-239 I even had one weirdo that was 241 grains I was using my ball anvil mic and they had some really weird neck wall thicknesses, one had12thous on one side to 18 thous on the other just for example.
Nosler and Hornady are what I use for belted mags.

One option, if you really believe weight sorting belted mag brass in these old design cartridges really pays off: buy a whole bunch, weight sort, and resell the rest, or use it as practice ammo.

I know it would have to help some what. I know it’s a totally different animal then my 6ppc or 6br rifles it would throw my 100rds groups off by .030-.070 if I didn’t match weights. It helped my 308 a little better but I do have notes from shooting that last years off hand but it closed that gun up .100 at 100 and it transferred a slightly better gain more to the 300 and 600 range over my previous groups.

I was also going to say Norma or Nosler, Lapua doesn't offer it either. I've not used Norma's or Nosler's brass either but it's supposed to be better than standard production brass from the common suppliers.
I have been seeing norma and this weird atlas brand at the range when I was building this gun but it was from a very small sample of people I have talked too and I’ve seen Hornady pop up also

Thank to everyone input so far !
 
If you are building a rifle RWS brass might be worth looking at.
Yeah that RWS seems to be a favorite of a lot of people on the forms, heavier cases that produce the same pressure with less powder and getting about the same velocity. If your interested I’ve attached a picture of the rifle below.
 

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I haven't shot my 300 win mag in years. However I have loaded mostly Winchester brass. I have some military range brass somewhere but haven't loaded any yet. When I was shooting this regularly I generally annealed it every other loading. It will last many loads. I also don't push it to the upper limits either.
 
Yeah that RWS seems to be a favorite of a lot of people on the forms, heavier cases that produce the same pressure with less powder and getting about the same velocity. If your interested I’ve attached a picture of the rifle below.

Thats a nice looking rifle. Let us know which direction you decide to go on the brass.
 
I use Federal and Nosler in my 300 wm. Both work fine. The Nosler is a little thinner and uniform, but the federal is good also. My brother brought me some Winchester for his 300, I did not care for it , it seemed thick and harder to work to get exact when resizing.
 
I use Federal and Nosler in my 300 wm. Both work fine. The Nosler is a little thinner and uniform, but the federal is good also. My brother brought me some Winchester for his 300, I did not care for it , it seemed thick and harder to work to get exact when resizing.
Hardness of the brass is a major issue with the Winchester, I went to size it and it took all the lube to get it to run through the FL sizing die, I plan to salt bath annealing all 100 cases afterI fire form them. there were some pieces .004-005thous wider then SAAMI spec. I’m too babied by lapua brass. you just check for length then neck size and roll. My father always praise Winchester for their quality in there brass but it does seem there brass is not the same as it was for my father in the 80’s - 90’s. Hopefully I will get some good brass in February and hit the range in March when she opens back up, I had to drive two hours just to go break my barrel in at a 100 yard range. :( I normally only drive that far to shoot at the longer ranges I’m lucky enough to have a ODNR range just about 15 mins away but it closes 1st and reopens 3/1 but it poked some good holes in the paper, if it was not for the 5th shot flying a little to the left I would had a .50 group with factory ammo to brag about (black hills 190 which is restamped Winchester but it mich better then my bagged brass I bought) but my 175smk shot fairly nice with the light charge of H4350(65 grains). I was getting .50-.750 5 shot groups while doing the single shot and clean break in method. I have a super long throat for 220smk and the 240smk which is what I guessed caused the flyer in the black hills I shot because I had nothing like that in my hand loads. I’m know of on the fence for Norma , RWS and atlas brand in Kentucky, maybe I will just buy a sample 50 count bag and try them all :). Here just my best target which was my 175smk break in load on it first 5 shot string , I will post my 20 dots once I write my notes on the paper and it interesting to see the groups change with the barrel breaking (which some people will argue does exist but you can see the shots become more consistent even during the single shot break in.)(I decide to hold the picture until have it all ready to go
 
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Little update I’ve been fire forming and working some brass. As stated before what I’m working with at the moment is Winchester brass and I’m on my 3rd reload on, I normall only resize the neck but I have a body die since I have a super tight chamber. I have about 20 piece I can not close my bolt on. I’ve discovered you need to watch the head of the case for expansion just above the belt on hotter load data. Here is my experience on this, with the winny brass and I will update when I try other brands on how much of an issues this is for me.

You can see how I try to fill length size these guys after firing them. Would not feed for ****, I normally only neck size brass and I am running higher pressures with heavier bullets, (220,208 and 210creeping onto 80-81 grains imr 8133) the Larry Willis die seems to be my solution and I will update you after resizing
 

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who’s brass seems to be the most consistent and uniformed out of the box for .300 win mag ? I’ve kind of just got into lr shooting with medium bore rifles and I started with about 100 pieces Of Winchester brass but it just has no consistency in weight so it’s being tossed to fouling shots and break in loads. Any help and opinions would be Much appreciated

I'd buy Nosler.
 
I have Nosler, Norma and possibly RWS on my immediate list, btw that the willis die works. It did exactly what I needed it too and fixed my issue. My 3rd fire brass is Beautiful and functional after tumbling, I need to invest in a annealing station to more more even annealing, I’m working on some really hot loads with the imr 8133. I was choocing 2837fps avg with a sd of 9fps with 79 grains under the 230 hybrids overall length of 3.500 and i do not have any pressure signs in 26 degree weather...we will see how truly temp stable this powder is this summer. I test ran about 10 round came back and checked the brass length. I decided to push the legs of my rifle to a fairly good step outside my longest range I have ever shot. I was pushing paper laser checked at 1647-1649yrd by both my leopold range finder and his showed the 1649. My first shot where a wash hitting just to the right of a 36in human silhouette piece of paper. Reevaluating winds as best as I could at different ranges I noticed the wind was moving super fast through through the valley where the small creek runs even though the wind was fairly calm at the target there were points. the heat wave coming off the ground was just vertical @300yards and at 600 they had slightly curves to the right so most of what I could tell and near a tree when I was out of Focus At the stream the heat waves where almost flat to the right so they had around 9-12mph since both my scope and his spotting scope could see them. I was only off by about 15-20inches so I decided to throw another 1moa into the scopes since it’s around 17.25in. I fired shot 2- hit shot 3 hit shot 4 hit all they way until shot 10 the. Something changed in the wind and threw that shot off but I was done, we moved to a different spot on the property to shoot 300 yrds and test some different projectiles. But overall with the charts on able to make on horndays website and print off are a huge help. It amazing what is possible with today’s tech and the shots my father would of had dreams about and never made. My real goal is to put 10 shots in a 1 mile target and I can taste it now since I planted 8 at basically 1650. We are talking about using our gopros to make a video for that because we should be able to make a mile shot safely on a certain spot on his property that does not go over that valley we just have to take down some brushes And maybe a tree or two. I will still make notes on this post when I get my other brass this spring and update that and if we make this video this summer I will share that also.

Oh also the winny brass is becoming more uniformed as I shoot it, the heavy brass stretched really badly the first firing and has been trim and now is closer the the avg brass weight. I’ve only been shooting the heavier brass so far and like I mentioned before everything been going accuracy has been better then expected. I will update when the snow is gone.
 

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Well I’ve tried atlas brass and I am amazing it’s shooting great, my 5 shot group was under .400 moa from *center to center * with this brass and with the 208 ELD m and h1000 I was getting 2980 at only 73.5 grain
 

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