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  1. outlawjw

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    Don't know if I got the cetme part exactly right , but it has the third position on the safety wood stock . Looks kinda like an AK to me , rear peep front post , he wants $500.00 for it. Looks to be in good shape , but I haven't shot it. The lever does not rotate to third position . Is it worth that
     
  2. ClickClickD'oh

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    If it's a CETME with a three position trigger group on it, someone likely put on G3 trigger pack. If the pistol grip is green plastic, that's most likely what it is.

    Some of the original century CETMEs came with misaligned sights or even the receivers joined to the barrel and gas tube at an angle. I would certainly shoot it before buying it. I had to pick over three before I found mine. Love it, but wouldn't trust one un-shot. Also, grow giant Teutonic hands or get used to not being able to operate the safety in any normal manner.
     
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    Ask him who made it. Century Arms assembled all kinds of rifles out of parts bins with zero QC.
     
  4. outlawjw

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    I really don't desire a stamped steel type of gun but did not know who might wish they had known about it , is why I mentioned it . Thanks for replies though , scatter gun is kinda what I thought.
     
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    Yeah with these rifles, unless its dirt cheap its best to go with PTR. Unlike Century CETME's, PTR knows how to build a decent rifle with some consistency, and decent customer service if needed.

    Now if it were a Mars CETME, it would be a different story.
     
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    definitely fire before ya buy. I have one that was a total turd, and needed a lot of fiddling before it would work reasonably well. its still picky about mags...HK mags are hit or miss, but real cetme mags generally work well.
    mine looks like it would go to the 3rd position, except for a raised bump in the way, as well as a safety design that wont allow it.

    google pics of the differences between a converted G3 trigger assembly and the cetme version. the G3 is by far the better trigger, and they aren't exactly fantastic either...but better than the cetme.

    if it feeds, fires, extracts and ejects okay, Id pay $500.
    post some pics if ya can
     
  7. W.E.G.

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    If Century assembled it, the iron sights are probably badly mis-regulated (not adjustable in any meaningful way either). The only way to correct the mis-regulated sights is to re-weld the triple-frame - which is not for amateurs and experimenters. Many of the Century CETME guns also suffered from ejection issues because the trigger pack rides too low, preventing the ejection-arm from rising high enough to meet the base of the casing during cycling. Generally the assembly of these guns was "off" enough that they required excessive force to operate the cocking handles, and the force against the cocking handle would raise a burr on the cocking handle slot that would slice your hand open like a Ginsu knife.

    If you want a likely multiple-component headache, and a rifle that will be hard to re-sell, the Century CETME may be a good choice.

    And they mutilate your brass - not that it matters really, because they throw the brass into the next zip code.
     
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    I had a Century built CETME rifle. I would not willingly have another, even if it were a gift.
     
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    Run. Every one of them that I saw was poorly assembled. Not that the original recipe (HK) is all that either. I wouldn't own one unless it was HK- and then only for the value. BTW I'm a HK factory certified armorer.
     
  10. 1stmarine

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    I shoot the original cetme serveral times when I was overseas.
    In full auto bursts is hard to control like the FAL. In single shot is a joy to shoot.
    It is heavy and stout but it is a good way to tame the round. Fairly accurate too.
    Keep in mind these are not piston systems and opens with the case thrust using the roller delay block.
    The brass stretches more than other rifles and the chambers are fluted to help with the extraction
    so if you reload consider this. This is no different than other delayed blow back.
    These were model D that were maintained by expert Spanish Marines Armorers and had excellent
    triggers and parts. I also shot the 5.56 model L that was light and utterly reliable like the 7.62.
    The Spanish did a great job with these rifles that were in service for generations.
    It ran smoother than the H&K, felt more robust and I am sure the expert maintenance had a lot to do a lot with it.
    Not sure about aftermarket or Century. With Century and other rifles like the AKs I have seen it can
    be a hit or miss situation like canted sights, crappy triggers, chamber issues, etc... but others
    get a decent retrofit. Like anything the QC needs to be there.
    There might be other brand that retrofit that follow all the specs and inspection points but not sure who.
     
  11. armoredman

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    The only thing I would buy with the Century logo is something they imported intact - I have seen too many cases of the drunken monkeys destroying good guns with sloppy, careless builds. My CETME was not only poorly assembled, they ground the back of the bolt instead of replacing worn out rollers to achieve a proper bolt gap, which ruined the bolt and required +4 rollers for proper function, IF I had been son inclined after the first magazine full of ammo left the gun inoperable. I found a tinkerer who gave me almost what I paid for it, which was very lucky. I do have to say some happy people have the vz-2008 vz-58 clones, another outsourced build, but they accidentally contracted with someone reasonably competent.
     
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    glad you back 1st Marine seems like you were gone for a while
     
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    Thanks mang. Busy with work and happy to see you around to be lurking around again.
    You know how this is sometimes, one easily gets hooked online end ends up
    wasting time pretty quickly so when work ramps up we have to stay away.
     
  14. outlawjw

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    I will try to get pics this evening
     
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    While I wouldn't be willing to roll the dice on another one, I must have gotten lucky with mine because it has run like a top since day one. It may be due to it being one of the earlier rifles Century put out. It shoots straight, never malfunctions and is quite accurate. If I had one complaint about the rifle, it would be the deafening boom it emits every time I fire it. The noise and percussion from the muzzle brake will get you unfriendly glares from fellow shooters, but will also dig you a foxhole while concealing you with dirt/grass if you shoot from the prone position.
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    *SIGH* Me too..... "live and learn....."
     
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