.308 or .223 or .22LR
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LkWinnipesaukee
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My 2 cents:
If its just for plinking, I say get it in 5.56. You can use mil surplus ammo if you want.
If its just for plinking, I say get it in 5.56. You can use mil surplus ammo if you want.
BozemanMT
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well, first, the .308 doesn't come in the AR15 package. It does come in the similar, but not the same AR10.
An AR15 is an extremelly capable rifle, I'd get a standard .223 to start with. After you get good, you can easily get another upper (which is not a rifle, but purely machine parts, on an AR15, the lower is the rifle) in whatever caliber you want.
An AR15 is an extremelly capable rifle, I'd get a standard .223 to start with. After you get good, you can easily get another upper (which is not a rifle, but purely machine parts, on an AR15, the lower is the rifle) in whatever caliber you want.
nitesite
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Well, first off I suggest you write off the idea of a .22LR AR15 conversion for any kind of self defense. Seriously. In fact, the .22LR is horrible at instantaneous incapacitation. (Mind you, if someone were shooting at me with a .22 I would be scared beyond imagination.)
And as far as plinking goes, beyond 75-yards or so the .22LR bullet trajectory starts to look like a rainbow.
If you want to 'shoot cheap' for plinking, there are dozens of inexpensive dedicated .22 rifles that are a hoot to shoot out to 50-yards or so. You can probably pick one up for $100-$200 and be happy.
And as far as plinking goes, beyond 75-yards or so the .22LR bullet trajectory starts to look like a rainbow.
If you want to 'shoot cheap' for plinking, there are dozens of inexpensive dedicated .22 rifles that are a hoot to shoot out to 50-yards or so. You can probably pick one up for $100-$200 and be happy.
my 2 cents
I've got an AR10 and an AR15 and a Ruger 10/22 and they are as different as Osama and the Pope. For plinking the .22 is surely the cheapest, quietest and softest option. But as has been noted, you're looking at 50 - 75 yards max before that round starts heading to the dirt like a Stuka.
AR15 in .223 is loud, but doesn't kick hard and as has been noted, you can get milsurp sometimes down in the 15 - 18 cents per round range. They are fun as heck and you can shoot them out way further than you can see well. I guess the "real" range is 300 yards or so before they start diving.
AR10 is awesome. Makes a big boom, recoil is nice because of mass and the .308 is a very accurate longish range caliber. They are regularly shot out over 500 yards and are still moving well and dropping consistently way beyond that.
Rounds are more expensive than the others but you get what you pay for. However, IMHO, if I had to get rid of all but one I'd keep the AR10 just because it is relatively scarce and it shoots a bigger bullet. It's a nice deer gun which the others are not. Nowadays you can get a .308 from RRA and from DPMS (Panther) for not too much more than .223 AR's. Hey, just get one of each!
I've got an AR10 and an AR15 and a Ruger 10/22 and they are as different as Osama and the Pope. For plinking the .22 is surely the cheapest, quietest and softest option. But as has been noted, you're looking at 50 - 75 yards max before that round starts heading to the dirt like a Stuka.
AR15 in .223 is loud, but doesn't kick hard and as has been noted, you can get milsurp sometimes down in the 15 - 18 cents per round range. They are fun as heck and you can shoot them out way further than you can see well. I guess the "real" range is 300 yards or so before they start diving.
AR10 is awesome. Makes a big boom, recoil is nice because of mass and the .308 is a very accurate longish range caliber. They are regularly shot out over 500 yards and are still moving well and dropping consistently way beyond that.
Rounds are more expensive than the others but you get what you pay for. However, IMHO, if I had to get rid of all but one I'd keep the AR10 just because it is relatively scarce and it shoots a bigger bullet. It's a nice deer gun which the others are not. Nowadays you can get a .308 from RRA and from DPMS (Panther) for not too much more than .223 AR's. Hey, just get one of each!
I own several AR rifles in 5.56/.223
I a seriously considering a DPMS AR in .308/7.62 NATO.
If you can afford it, why not buy a .223 and add a .22LR upper and buy an additional rifle in .308?
This may be the only way you will be truely happy with the decision if you are anything like half the guys on this board!
I a seriously considering a DPMS AR in .308/7.62 NATO.
If you can afford it, why not buy a .223 and add a .22LR upper and buy an additional rifle in .308?
This may be the only way you will be truely happy with the decision if you are anything like half the guys on this board!
Thanks for the input... I was sure I say a model AR15 that came with a.308
I live in Michigan and we have this thing called the shotgun line... anything below that line we can only hunt with the shotgun and .22, anything above that line you can use anything you want... I live below that line, so to shot I would have to find a range or something...
Peace,
Chad
I live in Michigan and we have this thing called the shotgun line... anything below that line we can only hunt with the shotgun and .22, anything above that line you can use anything you want... I live below that line, so to shot I would have to find a range or something...
Peace,
Chad
Thin Black Line
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5.56 for plinking as a carbine . If you want something in 7.62, go for the FAL.
Rokman
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For plinking definitely the .223. I'd spend the money on a different rifle for .308.
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.22 Conversion Kits
Keep in mind that the AR was never intended to fire lead bullets. If you do get a conversion, get the one that replaces the entire upper. Otherwise you may ruin the upper with a "bolt only" kit.
Keep in mind that the AR was never intended to fire lead bullets. If you do get a conversion, get the one that replaces the entire upper. Otherwise you may ruin the upper with a "bolt only" kit.
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