.31, .36 and .44 Ammo box labels

[TheOutlawKid]

I dont coat the entire cartridge with duco cement...just the bottom red rice paper disc...it gives it strength yet it also ensures a complete burn due to the glue being highly flamable. I was going to experiment and get nitrocellulose paint or nitrocellulose glue from 3rivers archery (its inexpensive in bulk) or even use a tube of Duco cement glue and mixing it with acetone to make it thinner...then dunk an entire book if rolling papers, or hair curling papers in it...separating the papers and drying them. Wouldnt take long due to fast drying. I did this with some hair curling papers and some coffe filter papers and wow-wee did it burn entirely. It was perfect. But i need to experiment more to perfect or make more cost efficient. I like making things to be inexpensive so that anyone can afford it.

 

[TheOutlawKid]

Oh also experiment with ur pin guages and paper and find the one that makes the perfect sized cartridge. You want it to slide in the chambers easily yet fit snug and leave no spaces or air pockets or crumbled up paper as the way tapered paper cartridges do. You want the cartridge to fill the walls of the chamber evenly.

 

[beczl]

I stopped posting new labels here because hard to manage. Here it is the new place of these labels + some extra information.

https://sites.google.com/view/beczloldwestlabelfactory/home?authuser=0

I uploaded some real unique cap tin labels.

 

[TheOutlawKid]

Very nice website!! Very generous to share your work for free....most people arent so generous. So for that i thank you. Im sure other forum members will also appreciatd what you provided

 

[beczl]

Thank you. I continuously upload new labels every week, I hope you find some useful for you.

If anybody needs any other Colt Navy/Army/Pocket cartridge or percussion caps label that doesn't exist on my website I could make it on request.

 

[SheikhAlStranghi]

Hi Beczl, would it also be possible to make 1870s centerfire primer tin labels?

 

[Boston Bill]

You are welcome. Still, other labels and inscriptions creation are in progress, I hope they will be useful to someone.

Some example.
A cap usage instruction/comparison (original size 176x112mm / 6,93x4,4")
And a Colt Navy Direction for loading and cleaning (original size 190x162mm / 7,48x6,37")

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I attached higher resolution images as the forum downsized the original attached pictures.

Huh, to think I have been using a wad all this time. And loading the cylinder out of the gun.
I guess I voided the warranty. lol

Thank you, those copies were really cool and informative.

 

[Boston Bill]

Mr.LaneP, You're welcome. Ive actually made really consistent loads in both speed and accuracy by weighing my powder before making them into paper cartridges. I used to use the standard volume measuring spouts but i got inconsistent volumes and i noticed even the slightest bit makes a difference. And manufacturers vary too ... For example, two different manufacturers may have 20 grain spouts but they usually threw different amounts. Once i went to weighing my loads and finding the best weight of powder for each bullet i used...i stopped having wide power/speed deviations and my accuracy improved. Then i started making my paper carts straight walled and that helped make sure i always applied the same amount of seating pressure, depth, etc.

How do you store paper cartridges?
How long do they last?
I have 2 dehumidifiers running in my basement and the humidity runs about 28 percent.

 

[DocRock]

Late to this party, not sure how I missed this awesome thread and the cool labels, let alone Outlaws cartridge making seminar!

Question: a number of the labels for "Army" cartridges are labeled as both cal. 46-100 and 44-100. Why the 46-100 ?

 

[jeffremiller]

Really Really late to the party - but I was researching labels and happened upon this thread after a few false starts! This is awesome stuff.

I am reproducing some boxes for both 36 and 44. this will give me plenty of materials to go on.

Right now I have reproduced a prototype box (not to original measurements) for 6 44 cartridges that also holds 6 caps in a disposable capping tool. Not authentic by any means. As a matter of fact, it may resemble wood, but is actually wood filament for my 3D printer sanded to give the grain effect. Hoping a laser engraver will handle the labeling aspect.

I will use all this great information to get these sized better and labeled on the sliding cover.

 

[SlowFuse]

This is an excellent first post @jeffremiller Welcome to THR.

Looks very nice, I need to get me one of those 3D printers!

 

[SleeperNo1]

This is my first post. I was given a Uberti 1858 Navy for Christmas. So, I looked further into the hobby. I have been a shooter and firearms instructor all of my life but have never been exposed to percussion cap revolvers. I am also a tinkerer. I am now officially obsessed. I want to create period and revolver correct tin caps for my now three revolvers. I have the following questions:
1. Is there anywhere I can go to get the correct dimensions of all (or any) original cap tins?
2. What was the predominant brand of cap used by confederate soldiers for their revolvers?

 

[Santee2171]

This is my first post as well, and really appreciate the effort you all went into instructing us and building replicas of 19th century equipment.