I can not seat my hornady 200 grn. rn. bullets to match lyman's 49 oal specs. . When I seat the bullet , so the factory crimp falls in the groove on the bullet, my oal. is about .035 too long. I measured a factory loaded rem. core lok and it is .030 longer than recomended oal. .Should I seat it to the groove on the bullet?
35 Rem. OAL
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What bullet is Lyman useing in their 49th? I doubt it is the Hornady or the COL would be the same or extreemly close.
Seat to the crimp grove. The nose profile of the bullet is a large factor in how well it chambers, especially in cartridges that are common to auto-loaders and levers. The COL places the bullet at the proper point to allow the best feeding. The difference in nose geometry is a part of the reason for various COLs amoung the different brands of same wgt bullet. The seating depth of the bullet base in handgun bullets takes priority in them due to pressure/case volume issues.
Seat to the crimp grove. The nose profile of the bullet is a large factor in how well it chambers, especially in cartridges that are common to auto-loaders and levers. The COL places the bullet at the proper point to allow the best feeding. The difference in nose geometry is a part of the reason for various COLs amoung the different brands of same wgt bullet. The seating depth of the bullet base in handgun bullets takes priority in them due to pressure/case volume issues.
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In my Lyman #48, they're using the Sierra 200gr RN. This explains why your seating depth is slightly different.
I've used the Sierra, Hornady, and Remington 200gr RN, and they are all three slightly different.
Be sure to trim your cases before the first loading. Many of the factory rounds are near max OAL for the original loading, the worst culprit is Winchester. Upon resizing the cases, they "grow" several thousandths, and are then over-length.
The OAL isn't that crictical as long as the ammo will feed/chamber, and the bullet is not being forced into the riflling causing difficult chambering.
The .35Rem typically has a very short throat. This isn't bad as it generally results in an accurate rifle/cartridge.
For a Marlin leveraction, the max OAL of 2.525" allows for easy feeding. If you trim your cases to suggested minimum and seat and crimp to/into the cannulure on either of the three bullets listed above, you will get positive feeding and chambering without excessive OAL.
I've found that with newer MODERN .35's, that you can somewhat exceed most of the Manual maximum loads for the .35 and get excellent performance from this old reliable cartridge.
My favorite powder for the .35 is H4895. My favorite bullet is the Remington 200gr Corlokt RN. I also really like BL-C2, and the Sierra 200gr RN. I haven't gotten around to trying the Hornady 200gr FTX. However, I do have some Speer 180gr FN, and don't like them. I've gotten poor expansion and lost several deer hit well with them. Ditto the 200gr Hornady RN, as it is actually intended for the faster .35 caliber rifles such as the .350RemMag, .35Whelen, and .358Norma Mag. Likewise the Speer 180 and 220gr FN's.
The Remington CorLokts however, expand readily, and penetrate considerably. I've only recovered one of these from a deer, and it penetrated over 30", and weight 187gr, and was a classic "Deadliest mushroom in the woods" mushroom. (from the old Remington magazine advertisements....).
The Sierra 200gr RN is the most accurate of the bullets suitable for the .35Rem and they too readily expand with amazing effectiveness on deer and Hogs. However, they are about 2x as expensive as the Corlokts.....
I've used the Sierra, Hornady, and Remington 200gr RN, and they are all three slightly different.
Be sure to trim your cases before the first loading. Many of the factory rounds are near max OAL for the original loading, the worst culprit is Winchester. Upon resizing the cases, they "grow" several thousandths, and are then over-length.
The OAL isn't that crictical as long as the ammo will feed/chamber, and the bullet is not being forced into the riflling causing difficult chambering.
The .35Rem typically has a very short throat. This isn't bad as it generally results in an accurate rifle/cartridge.
For a Marlin leveraction, the max OAL of 2.525" allows for easy feeding. If you trim your cases to suggested minimum and seat and crimp to/into the cannulure on either of the three bullets listed above, you will get positive feeding and chambering without excessive OAL.
I've found that with newer MODERN .35's, that you can somewhat exceed most of the Manual maximum loads for the .35 and get excellent performance from this old reliable cartridge.
My favorite powder for the .35 is H4895. My favorite bullet is the Remington 200gr Corlokt RN. I also really like BL-C2, and the Sierra 200gr RN. I haven't gotten around to trying the Hornady 200gr FTX. However, I do have some Speer 180gr FN, and don't like them. I've gotten poor expansion and lost several deer hit well with them. Ditto the 200gr Hornady RN, as it is actually intended for the faster .35 caliber rifles such as the .350RemMag, .35Whelen, and .358Norma Mag. Likewise the Speer 180 and 220gr FN's.
The Remington CorLokts however, expand readily, and penetrate considerably. I've only recovered one of these from a deer, and it penetrated over 30", and weight 187gr, and was a classic "Deadliest mushroom in the woods" mushroom. (from the old Remington magazine advertisements....).
The Sierra 200gr RN is the most accurate of the bullets suitable for the .35Rem and they too readily expand with amazing effectiveness on deer and Hogs. However, they are about 2x as expensive as the Corlokts.....
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You are looking at 200 grain Sierra loading data, and using 200 grain Hornady's.
Seat to the crimp cannelure on the bullet and fugedaboutit.
OAL with a lever-action bullet is determined by the placement of the cannelure, not by measuring it.
As long as they are SAAMI spec 2.525" or shorter, they will work through the action.
rc
You are looking at 200 grain Sierra loading data, and using 200 grain Hornady's.
Seat to the crimp cannelure on the bullet and fugedaboutit.
OAL with a lever-action bullet is determined by the placement of the cannelure, not by measuring it.
As long as they are SAAMI spec 2.525" or shorter, they will work through the action.
rc
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RC is correct. If it feeds and chambers, it's right.
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