.41 Mag Association

A 230 Keith from a 4" S&W 57 runs right at 970 with 8.0 grains.

Each gun is different of course, but as was said above 8-9.0 grains will get you a very accurate pleasant shooting load in the velocity range you are looking for...

Bob
 
Not much... fixing to load about 1000 .41's up for the trip to Wyoming in August. I've been so busy with work, it's been getting in the way of my Quality Time with the .41's... *sigh*
 
Domino300 said:
Didn't see it on Charter Arms web page, anybody seen one?
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I bought one recently from Bud's, but haven't shot it yet. My Dad's been very sick, among other things, and I haven't found time go to the range. Paid three hundred and eighty something. I like the gun, but of course, it isn't as finely finished as a Smith 57 or a Blackhawk. It does cycle smoothly and seems solid. I'm guessing it's the lowest priced .41 Magnum on the market. Here's mine:






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Jim NE said:
I bought one recently from Bud's, but haven't shot it yet. My Dad's been very sick, among other things, and I haven't found time go to the range. Paid three hundred and eighty something. I like the gun, but of course, it isn't as finely finished as a Smith 57 or a Blackhawk. It does cycle smoothly and seems solid. I'm guessing it's the lowest priced .41 Magnum on the market. Here's mine:






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Sorry to hear about your dad.

How's ejection on that? Looks like they could have used a longer ejector rod.
 
gotboostvr said:
Sorry to hear about your dad.
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Thank you. I was up there today and he's looking better.

How's ejection on that? Looks like they could have used a longer ejector rod.
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That's a great question. I also haven't chambered any rounds yet, so unfortunately, I can't say. It does look short, doesn't it.
 
Jim NE

Good to hear your Dad is doing okay.

Let us know how the .41Magnum Pug does whenever you get a chance to try it out at the range.
 
I bought one about five weeks ago to carry when I am at my mountain property. The extractor works good enough to the question above. the first few cylinder extractions were a little sticky but are getting better as I continue to shoot it. It does shoot better then I expected from POA to POI if I aim through the bottom of the front site. What I have shot through it so far has been the 230gr HSM bear load, these are a normal load a little on the heavy lead weight side ( I normally run 210s through my 41s) but not a hot load like Grizzly or Buffalo Bore. At 7 yards it runs a little less than two inches and at 15 it is four inches or a little less. At 23 ounces and the umph of a 41 mag it has a brisk recoil but is manageable recoil. Hang on firmly to the grip it cut the skin between the thumb and index fingure of one of the guys I let shoot it, a little sharp on the edges there but not bad he just wasn’t expecting that much jump, huh sissy. I bought mine to carry in my front jeans pocket and it works well for that using a sleeve. I looked at the other brands in their snubs but they are physically a little bigger and will not fit the pocket very good. I have several 41s and reload, I will probably in the winter play with some loads over the crony and look for the best patterns. This one I feel When I carry it was made to use as a working tool, the other ones I looked at even if they would fit the pocket I would have felt guilty carrying something as nicely finished as they are. If you are looking for a tuff enough built woods carry weapon then this is one to consider. Also being made in the USA is a plus to me.
 
I picked up my Charter Arms 41 Magnum today as well as a Charter Arms 45 Colt. The finish is surprisingly good, free of any tool marks that i can see, and the fit is acceptable. The trigger pull is very smooth and not heavy at all. Definitely lighter than my recently purchases Smith and Wesson 69. Both guns are very light, 23 ounces, and balance well in my hand. I took a couple of quick photos.The 41 magnum is on the left in both photos and in the photo from the rear of the cylinder. IMG_0812.JPG IMG_0808.JPG IMG_0814.JPG
 
bannockburn said:
Jim NE

Good to hear your Dad is doing okay.

Let us know how the .41Magnum Pug does whenever you get a chance to try it out at the range.
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Okay, I finally got to shoot my .41 Magnum Charter Arms Mag Pug several days ago. Here's the range report:

I did just a minimal cleaning of the gun prior to shooting, which was basically just wiping off the excess oil from the factory. I shot some HMS lead round nose (I think) cowboy loads, which were noticeably less expensive than most other factory ammo (but still not cheap.) Then I shot some Federal Power Shok. These were a jacketed hollowpoint, and the bullets weighed 210 gr., I believe.

I didn't put a lot of ammo through the gun in this initial outing, but enough ammo to feel fairly confident in the gun's build and pleased with it's performance so far. The HMS cowboy loads weren't much of a recoil monster in this light weight (23.5 oz.) gun. That was a pleasant surprise. Pretty manageable for anyone but maybe a novice shooter. Kind of like +P .38 out of a K or steel J frame snubbie with rubber grips. I was probably getting tea cup saucer sized groups when I was concentrating (which isn't all the time with a new gun.) That was at about 7 or 8 yards, so plenty accurate for self defense, and point of impact was fairly close to point of aim...just a tad high and to the right, maybe. I don't assess the upper end of accuracy usually on my first time out with a new gun, but it was plain to see that this gun is not inaccurate.

The Federal Power Shok, however, were down towards the other end of the spectrum when it comes to shooting comfort. They were intense. I can't imagine handgun shooters of any experience level finding them pleasant to shoot in this gun. I could tolerate putting five rounds of this stuff through the Mag Pug, and that was it for me. The scary thing is that the Power Shok ammo isn't really even at the top end of the power spectrum for factory ammo. The good news, however, is that even these powerful loads were still manageable enough to get on target at this distance. I was pleased with that, considering this is a brand new lightweight gun in a powerful caliber I'd never fired before. I'm not sure I'd try anything much more powerful than the Power Shok in this gun, at this point (though it could probably take it structurally.) It would be a flinch inducing level of recoil. I'm looking forward, however, to shooting some Winchester Super X ammo that I bought; it's 175 grain and has muzzle energies a little lower than the Federal stuff. This could maybe be the "sweet spot" ammo for this type of gun. I'll let you know.

Oh, and someone asked about the short ejector rod. It is a little short, but I had no extraction problems. The spent casings came out clean enough, and with a vigorous push, the shorter rod shouldn't be a problem. I will say, however, that the ejector rod doesn't have as sturdy a feel as the rest of the gun does. And it's travel isn't real smooth - it has sort of a slightly gritty feel to it. Different than a S&W or Ruger. That's the only negative I've found with the gun so far.

The gun has a tight lockup for the cylinder, and everything seemed just as solid after the shooting session. Here are some pics of the gun that I took before the shooting session:


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Nice reviews, thanks...

A friend bought one like this in .45 ACP and is a pretty smooth gun... May have to consider one of these.

Another round to try is Barnes solid copper HPs. I have shot them in a Taurus Titanium Tracker and the recoil is moderate...

Bob
 
dawei said:
Jim NE is the 41 Magnum ported?
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That's a good question, because at the Bud's Gun Shop site, a lot of reviewers who bought the .41 CA were shocked when it arrived non-ported. No, mine's not ported either. Apparently there's been some misunderstanding about this, either through Bud's or Charter Arms. I didn't want a ported gun because of my experience with a ported super blackhawk years ago.

I could see how some folks would want it ported given it's recoil with stout rounds, but I was able to keep it on target with stout rounds, and that's all that matters to me. I'd much rather suffer stiff recoil than super loud blasts, as long as I can hit what I'm aiming it. The gun wasn't super loud at the range I went to, but they have pretty good sound dampening.
 
Jim NE

Thanks for the thorough range report! Good to get your impressions of the different loads you tried. Have been loock ing to get back into a .41 Magnum for quite some time now, having had a S&W Model 57 and a Model 58 many years ago. This Charter Arms .41 Mag Pug just might be the ticket!
 
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I carried a Model 58 in LE for 13 years. Fired at least 20 rounds on my days off. I used Elmer Keith loads and they were barn burners.
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This 210 grain JHP went through the spare tire, the tail gate, the back of the front seat and into the dashboard radio of a 70's Ford Bronco. Kid tried to run me down, I flew over the hood and came up shooting.

Call me a wuss, I have no desire to fire any .41 mags in a smaller gun than that old S&W. Recoil is cumulative. Just sayin.
 
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