44 mag vs. 45 colt

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I am not a fan of single action revolvers so I went with 44 Mag. I do reload 44 mag for both my Revolver and Carbine. Despite the potential bore difference between SAAMI pistol specs and rifle specs I have had no issues. My go to load is a 240gr JHP pushed by IMR-800x at about 1370 from the revolver and 1600 fps from the carbine.

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Rossi M92 16-inch carbine and S&W M29 6.5-inch Revolver.
 
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I have been shooting and reloading the 45 Colt for close to 40 years.
If I were to do it again I would go with the 44.
More factory ammo choices, more firearms availability, and 44 special!

Factory ammo choices in .45 Colt are limited because of the actual pressure limits for SAAMI .45 Colt cartridges in standard firearms. As far as the .44SPC, I took a sip of that Kool-Aid and didn't think it tasted any better than anything else; in reality, the .45 Colt is a .44SPC with a bigger bullet.
 
My opinion only, your mileage may vary, etc.

I have stayed with the .45 Colt. I have a Redhawk, Blackhawk, 1892, and large frame Vaquero that will all handle "Ruger only" loads. I also hand load. I can inexpensively load either powder puff target loads or heavy hitters (or at least I am still able to as long as my stock of components holds up!). As a result, I have not seen the need to complicate things by getting a .44 magnum.

That doesn't mean that if I found a clean 1956 birth year S&W .44 magnum at a decent price that I wouldn't snap it up. :)
 
I have both calibers in revolvers and 16” lever guns.

I find my Rossi .45 C to be my favorite lever gun.

I like the versatility of the Smith 629 series of .44 Mag revolvers.

I do have an old Vaquero and a .454 SRH so I can hotrod the old .45 warhorse to magnum levels if I wanted to, but I prefer the big bullet/comfy recoil of low pressure cowboy to book standard loads for the .45 C.

For magnum shooting, I stick with the .44. (Or the .41 Redhawk ;))

I've wondered this myself over the years and it's impossible to get a straight answer from the Internet Gun Community. I'll attempt to cut thru it and give you the best answer I can.

In terms of power, they're about equal, but if you're gonna go above the 14k PSI limit for .45 Colt then you're stuck with a Ruger or a BFR for revolvers, for .44 Mag as long as it's chambered for .44 Mag, you can shoot .44 Mag from it. I have a .45 Colt Redhawk that also shoots .45 ACP... it's probably my favorite revolver and I've read that they can eat 50k PSI loads all day.

I've been trying out loads for the .45 ACP to see how much I can push it. Right now 5.4gr of Bullseye will push a 225gr lead bullet to 840 fps, that's with a decent jump to the throat and the gap sucking some energy. My goal with the .45 ACP in the Redhawk is to get to 1000 fps with a 230 grain jacketed bullet and I see no reason the Redhawk can't handle that.

Hot .45 Colt tho, I have no need to load to 50k PSI even tho the Redhawk can take it. If I want more power than 14k PSI, I use published data and IDK of any published data that goes much above .44 Mag pressures.

Case life with the .45 Colt... it depends on the brass you use. Apparently Starline has tested and advertises that their .45 Colt brass can handle .44 Mag pressures:

https://www.starlinebrass.com/45-colt-brass


Other companies I severely doubt their .45 Colt brass was built for anything more than 14k PSI.

Accuracy I can't speak much to as I've never shot .44 before. I can say that with standard pressure .45 Colt loads, the case volume is so large that it can cause inconsistency with the power burn and ignition, but if the .45 Schofield case is used, given the case volume is less and the amount of air is reduced, it shoots more consistently and accurately. With higher power loads, I see no reason the .45 Colt can't be as accurate as .44 Mag.

In a rifle I see no difference between .44 and .45 Colt, but I've been trying to find out how well .45 Colt levers cycle when using bullets that weigh 300 grains or more as those would be longer than normal and I can't get a straight answer on that either. With .44 Mag, it seems they're able to cycle anything from 200 grain loads to 300+.

What I like about .45 Colt is it can shoot the same bullets as .45 ACP, so when it's panic time your available selection is greater. I also like that if I want to make a load that uses two round balls, I can use the Speer or Hornady muzzleloader balls that I already have for my .44 percussion revolvers. The balls are also about 20gr heavier than the .433 balls, so that's an extra 40gr of lead being put down range with each trigger pull.

For a revolver, especially if you get a Ruger that's able to shoot .45 ACP, there's a lot of reasons to get .45 Colt. For a lever action, IDK.

For the .45 Super level .45 ACP loads you’re experimenting with I suggest .45 Super brass from Starline. Thicker case for the higher pressures you’re dealing with should give you a bit more cushion against a case failure. I bought 500 for my Springfield V-16 .45 Super. A great long-slide 1911, but it flings brass all over :(. Your revolver won’t have that issue. :)

Stay safe.
 
Factory ammo choices in .45 Colt are limited because of the actual pressure limits for SAAMI .45 Colt cartridges in standard firearms. As far as the .44SPC, I took a sip of that Kool-Aid and didn't think it tasted any better than anything else; in reality, the .45 Colt is a .44SPC with a bigger bullet.
Much better defensive ammo options for .45 Colt than .44 Spl.
 
Or the .41 Redhawk

Envy level: x1000

I have both calibers in revolvers and 16” lever guns.

My brother's Winchester Trapper, with the 16" barrel in .45 Colt, is about the handiest carbine evarrrr. I used to swipe it from him as a camp gun. I've considered taking my 20" Marlin 1894 in .41MAG and bushwhacking the barrel to 16"... but I just don't have the heart. I just need to find a beat up Marlin .45 Colt and make it into a Marlin Trapper...
 
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My brother's Winchester Trapper, with the 16" barrel in .45 Colt, is about the handiest carbine evarrrr. I used to swipe it from him as a camp gun. I've considered taking my 20" Marlin 1894 in .41MAG and bushwhacking the barrel to 16"... but I just don't have the heart. I just need to find a beat up Marlin .45 Colt and make it into a Marlin Trapper...

My Rossi’s are both 16” in .357 and .45 Colt and the .44 is a Win 1894AE trapper 16”.

With PCC lever guns 16” just rings my bell, in rifle calibers I’m a 20”-26” barrel length fan.

Stay safe.
 
I am not aware of any k frame sized double action revolvers in 45 Colt.

Taurus 445 is one, but it is long out of production and an extreme outlier so your point is still valid. Just thought you might like to know one exists. Most are 2 1/8” or 2 1/2” snubs.

The 445 Titanium is quite the collector piece. I have seen them in the $1000s before which is saying something for any Taurus. The Ultra-Lites come up from time to time. I have to say, an Ultra-Lite firing standard pressure 45 Colt would be quite the carryable punch packer.
 
I can load 44 mag hot or light. The bullets are available in a wide range of weights. It seems my 44 mag can do anything the 45 colt could do. I have a 629-4 that I love. I’m thinking I want single action to load for, or maybe a big bore lever gun. Would the 45 colt give me something I don’t already have?
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David

Yes, it would give you more stuff to buy. Dies, projectiles, cases.

Much better defensive ammo options for .45 Colt than .44 Spl.

Possibly you are right. However, I wouldn’t want to get shot with this.
 

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Yes, it would give you more stuff to buy. Dies, projectiles, cases.



Possibly you are right. However, I wouldn’t want to get shot with this.
Same thing is available in .45 Colt.

However, I'm focusing more on hollow points as I feel those are still the best style of bullet available for handguns. Until police and military switch to stuff like the Lehigh Xtreme Defese or Inceptor, the solid bullets with flutes cut into them, I'll stick with hollow points in most calibers.

That said, I too like the full wadcutter for handloads.
 
This is the reloading forum, but it seems like the main advantage of .44 is if you don't reload. The factory offerings for .44 are wider, although Buffalo Bore/Double Tap can load you up with fearsome .45 LC rounds.

Reloading, I don't see any real strong advantage either way. They both can be loaded in a wide range of powers and slugs.
 
The .44 gets a bit more speed, generally, than Ruger-only Colt loads. The Colt can handle slightly heavier bullets and has slightly more frontal area.

I personally prefer the Colt, but have used the .44 with great success and plan to do it again.

That's written by a handloader, though. If limited to factory loads, I probably would choose the .44 Magnum. Of course, I just can't imagine being limited to factory loads.
 
44 Mag for the guys that walk into the gun store looking for a powerful handgun

45 Colt for the guys that walk into the gun store knowing what powerful handgun they want
 
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