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Folks, read this article.... original link is found here:
http://www.fcspi.org/California/ab50committeeupdate.htm
Folks, read this article.... original link is found here:
http://www.fcspi.org/California/ab50committeeupdate.htm
50bmg: Descent into Madness 48 Hours in the California Legislative System
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BUMP!
Folks, read this article.... original link is found here:
http://www.fcspi.org/California/ab50committeeupdate.htm
Folks, read this article.... original link is found here:
http://www.fcspi.org/California/ab50committeeupdate.htm
Man, when Kali goes up in the flames of mass rioting and violence, I'm going to sit in front of my TV, drink a beer, and thoroughly enjoy the show, just like I did during the Rodney King riots. It will be history in the making. In the meantime, those of you in the PRK have done an exemplary job of holding on, but its time to make contingency plans. I suggest either moving or stocking up on massive amounts of ammo.
Pendragon,
Need any help?Will work for room and board!When you get settled,maybe setup our own California Underground Railroad.
My folks are getting up there in years,I'd feel bad bailing
on them,but Idaho or Wyoming looks good!
QuickDraw
Need any help?Will work for room and board!When you get settled,maybe setup our own California Underground Railroad.
My folks are getting up there in years,I'd feel bad bailing
on them,but Idaho or Wyoming looks good!
QuickDraw
Let me tell you about the family situation.
It sucks. Utterly.
Most are at least not saying anything or even being supportive, my brother says he has been thinking of going in a couple more years but some have just been difficult. Major guilt trips about our son not knowing them, etc.
We are trying to get the house prepped to show - we got a little crazy with some paint and had all kinds of "test areas", etc that we had to fix back to normal.
Houses on my street are selling in under a week (4 homes in the past month). Most of them, they first looker made them a full offer. Who pays almost $300k for a 1400-1600 sf house? Crazy crazy crazy - but buy mine before you wake up.
After we sell, I will drive one car to SA, fly back, drive the other car and get our stuff sent on a truck and my wife will fly down a few days later with the baby.
California Unemployment benefits are still payable if you leave the state and we figure we can get an apartment and live off the unemployment until I find a job 0 then buy a house.
I have sympathy if you have family that need you here. I had to ultimately prioritize the needs of my son - in TX, we can own a home, have a yard, afford college, etc - in CA, we can scrape by in a cruddy apartment hoping the rent does not go up too fast, not saving, not doing anything but living check to check.
Some family have complained and we said "move with us!" and they basically said their life is here. Well, guess what? Our life is definately NOT here. We cant afford it, it scares us and staying will impoverish us and put our son at a disadvantage. As hard as they think it is for them to move out, thats how hard it is for us to stay.
It sucks. Utterly.
Most are at least not saying anything or even being supportive, my brother says he has been thinking of going in a couple more years but some have just been difficult. Major guilt trips about our son not knowing them, etc.
We are trying to get the house prepped to show - we got a little crazy with some paint and had all kinds of "test areas", etc that we had to fix back to normal.
Houses on my street are selling in under a week (4 homes in the past month). Most of them, they first looker made them a full offer. Who pays almost $300k for a 1400-1600 sf house? Crazy crazy crazy - but buy mine before you wake up.
After we sell, I will drive one car to SA, fly back, drive the other car and get our stuff sent on a truck and my wife will fly down a few days later with the baby.
California Unemployment benefits are still payable if you leave the state and we figure we can get an apartment and live off the unemployment until I find a job 0 then buy a house.
I have sympathy if you have family that need you here. I had to ultimately prioritize the needs of my son - in TX, we can own a home, have a yard, afford college, etc - in CA, we can scrape by in a cruddy apartment hoping the rent does not go up too fast, not saving, not doing anything but living check to check.
Some family have complained and we said "move with us!" and they basically said their life is here. Well, guess what? Our life is definately NOT here. We cant afford it, it scares us and staying will impoverish us and put our son at a disadvantage. As hard as they think it is for them to move out, thats how hard it is for us to stay.
Your doing the right thing Pen. Kali sucks. When ya get in place, are you going to buy something that is illegal, evil and against the law in Kali, there in Texas?
Pendragon,
I think your making the right choice.What I'm paying every month in rent
would easily make a house payment anywhere else!
With the latest round of insanity,and more on the way,this State is
in for a bumpy ride.
Just for clarification,I wasn't implying you were bailing on your folks.
I'm wrestling with the same situation,family and friends here,freedom
there!
When you and your family get out,send word back and let us know
what freedom tastes like!
QuickDraw
I think your making the right choice.What I'm paying every month in rent
would easily make a house payment anywhere else!
With the latest round of insanity,and more on the way,this State is
in for a bumpy ride.
Just for clarification,I wasn't implying you were bailing on your folks.
I'm wrestling with the same situation,family and friends here,freedom
there!
When you and your family get out,send word back and let us know
what freedom tastes like!
QuickDraw
I would urge all decent people in California to put plans into motion to get out. Probably within 10-15 yrs that state is going to utterly impolde as the productive and freedom loving folk move out and the socialist scum from all over the country converge there to take part in their hand holding. Major problems are going to ensue as the hispanic majority is still going to be in the mindset of an oppressed minority, but who are they going to blame now that whitey has left, as well as others who know how to create wealth. The socialist nonsense in the state will accelerate at a tremendous pace, as even more socialist twits converge there as their own "free state".
After all the huge riots and mass killings thin out the population and destroy whatever wealth was there, the state will then be suitable for rebuilding by capitalists.
After all the huge riots and mass killings thin out the population and destroy whatever wealth was there, the state will then be suitable for rebuilding by capitalists.
Glock,
I agree with you except.....Kali is 10% of the population. That's a lot of electoral votes for either party. I can't believe that any president could resist being the knight in shining armor riding in to save the day, especially when it might mean the undying devition of the majority of Hispanics, who by that time will be the majority in Ca.
I agree with you except.....Kali is 10% of the population. That's a lot of electoral votes for either party. I can't believe that any president could resist being the knight in shining armor riding in to save the day, especially when it might mean the undying devition of the majority of Hispanics, who by that time will be the majority in Ca.
Correct. For it to work CA has got to hit absolute rock bottom before it gets better, and I can totally see the Feds coming in to bail them out. We and everyone else would have to yell and scream to prevent the Feds from doing that.
That article is nothing short of staggering in its content ......... hard in fact to stay level headed to comment on it.
It's a bit like ''Well, we'll have a meeting to hear your views ......... but we've already made our (pathetic) decision''. So this is democracy at work is it? More like a tyranical regime based on 'we know best' .... for you lesser mortals! The amount of supposition and guesswork underneath this decision-making is scandalous ..... all the ''it has been said that ........''
This is law making at it's very worst .... a process of ''committee'' at its very worst.
Pen ... from sound of mention of ''wife and kid'' ... you sound young enough to get this done and succeed.
Go for it ... and even if things are rough for a year or so it has to be worth it ..... you have the time needed. Blessings on your escape.
It's a bit like ''Well, we'll have a meeting to hear your views ......... but we've already made our (pathetic) decision''. So this is democracy at work is it? More like a tyranical regime based on 'we know best' .... for you lesser mortals! The amount of supposition and guesswork underneath this decision-making is scandalous ..... all the ''it has been said that ........''
This is law making at it's very worst .... a process of ''committee'' at its very worst.
Pen ... from sound of mention of ''wife and kid'' ... you sound young enough to get this done and succeed.
Go for it ... and even if things are rough for a year or so it has to be worth it ..... you have the time needed. Blessings on your escape.
Thank you.
I am going to write more on it. The process has been interesting to me - especially what I was predicting and a co-worker told me about relocating - the rollercoaster of "wow, this is exciting!" to "holy crap! what have I done?!" back and forth. As it gets closer, the ups and downs are a little more frequent, but not as high and low if that makes sense.
The process is supposed to start over again after you actually move - or so the psyche major tells me
I am 33, wife is 30 this year. Son is 19 months, married 10 years in October. We are solid and we both understand why it is necessary and we have very similar expectations.
We are mostly anxious to try to get to a place where it is possible to live well and do so beneath your means - this seems particularly feasable in SA TX - but time will tell.
I am hoping against hope that some family will follow in a year or three. We are going to send them scans of our tiny little mortgage payment (my parents are looking at the smallest available new homes in town and they are $250k - they will both have to keep working to hold on to that little cottage). My brother is on the same track as we are only about ears behind - so we will see.
Regardless, I like the idea of raising my son in Texas - especially a military town like SA and around the Alamo - so it gives a lot of chances to talk about what real men are and freedom and patriotism and sacrifice, etc. Vs having to explain why sometimes its hard to tell if some people are a "boy or a girl" or constantly explain why the state is full of freaks and weasels (appologies to Jim March).
I am going to write more on it. The process has been interesting to me - especially what I was predicting and a co-worker told me about relocating - the rollercoaster of "wow, this is exciting!" to "holy crap! what have I done?!" back and forth. As it gets closer, the ups and downs are a little more frequent, but not as high and low if that makes sense.
The process is supposed to start over again after you actually move - or so the psyche major tells me
I am 33, wife is 30 this year. Son is 19 months, married 10 years in October. We are solid and we both understand why it is necessary and we have very similar expectations.
We are mostly anxious to try to get to a place where it is possible to live well and do so beneath your means - this seems particularly feasable in SA TX - but time will tell.
I am hoping against hope that some family will follow in a year or three. We are going to send them scans of our tiny little mortgage payment (my parents are looking at the smallest available new homes in town and they are $250k - they will both have to keep working to hold on to that little cottage). My brother is on the same track as we are only about ears behind - so we will see.
Regardless, I like the idea of raising my son in Texas - especially a military town like SA and around the Alamo - so it gives a lot of chances to talk about what real men are and freedom and patriotism and sacrifice, etc. Vs having to explain why sometimes its hard to tell if some people are a "boy or a girl" or constantly explain why the state is full of freaks and weasels (appologies to Jim March).
Now you know why I departed California for good this March. The bastards wore me down. They've set up laws that made it not feasible to legally sell my quality guns because they aren't on the State Attorney General's approved firearm list The Wal-Marts and K-Marts in the east San Francisco Bay Area not only don't carry any firearms, they don't even carry shotgun ammunition! 
If they're afraid of the puny .50 BMG...
... then they REALLY won't like this hobby:
http://www.publicmissiles.com/
... then they REALLY won't like this hobby:
http://www.publicmissiles.com/
My family and I moved to TX, precisely because we grew to despise CA. Over-lawyered, over-taxed, and without respect for the fundamental human right of self defense ... plus, a bonus ... high crime.
It's a da*n shame the decent folks in CA are so oppressed by such fools, and will pay such a stiff price.
Still ... consider this ... when people vote with their feet, their acts can actually help force reform. CA's electorate will eventually have to wake up. But I'll wager things get much, much worse before they come out of the ether.
Regards from TX
It's a da*n shame the decent folks in CA are so oppressed by such fools, and will pay such a stiff price.
Still ... consider this ... when people vote with their feet, their acts can actually help force reform. CA's electorate will eventually have to wake up. But I'll wager things get much, much worse before they come out of the ether.
Regards from TX
Problem is, it's the law abiding, pro-gun people who are leaving, leaving that beautiful state to wallow in its rising crime rate. I was highly active in the last national elections, campagning for the pro-gun candidates and contributing over $2,000. California won't have my efforts in their next elections.
Most important thing left to us is to do our utmost to make sure Feinstein and Boxer don't exert their anti-gun ownership stance beyond the state line!
Most important thing left to us is to do our utmost to make sure Feinstein and Boxer don't exert their anti-gun ownership stance beyond the state line!
That is the truth. It is like swimming up a river. After awhile your arms get tired and you just go with the flow. And if you stay and fight, just across the border, everyone gets to have all the cool guns. And Kali people get stuck with "DOJ approved guns". :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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