7.62x39 Pistol WOW!!!

[CarJunkieLS1]

For all the naysayers that say the x39 isn't accurate, won't hit a barn, etc etc. Well myself and many knowledgeable people here know that's just not the case.

Get a quality barrel, ammo, and voila you'll have a good shooter. Well recently I picked up a Hardened Arms 10.5" 7.62x39 pistol upper and slapped a Sig Romeo red dot and a 5x magnifier on it. Shooting factory Federal Fusion 123 grain here is shots at 50 yards.

Then I moved to 100 yards and made a single shot.

Decided to shoot some water filled milk jugs at 100 yards to check expansion with the slower velocity of the pistol barrel, it penetrated 4 gallon jugs and stopped in the 5th. Bullet weighed 119.8 grains and can't get much better than this.


Gonna do some deer hunting with it next year and I'm sure it's gonna be fine at reasonable ranges. And I couldn't be happier

 

[troy fairweather]

i saw a video and the guy was getting 2100 fps with his 10'' ak, not to bad. try some of that 154 sp tula.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

I've got it loaded with genuine 8M3 and it's a "bump in the night" gun right now. Personally the 154 Tula is real hard to find locally and the fusion is so accurate and performs very nice I just don't see a reason to try something else. I do plan to get some velocity readings pretty soon.

 

[troy fairweather]

I've got it loaded with genuine 8M3 and it's a "bump in the night" gun right now. Personally the 154 Tula is real hard to find locally and the fusion is so accurate and performs very nice I just don't see a reason to try something else. I do plan to get some velocity readings pretty soon.

that 8m3 was some nasty stuff, it was my dads go to ammo for deer when i was a kid, then it dried up, i see there making it again.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

Yes Tula and an online retailer has a supposed contract to have "genuine" 8m3 made BUT internet rumors are that's it's still hit or miss on whether it's actually 8m3 projectile or not.

The 8M3 I have it's the real deal and if the lgs I got it from had more I'd go buy it all.

 

[troy fairweather]

Yes Tula and an online retailer has a supposed contract to have "genuine" 8m3 made BUT internet rumors are that's it's still hit or miss on whether it's actually 8m3 projectile or not.

The 8M3 I have it's the real deal and if the lgs I got it from had more I'd go buy it all.

some videos i saw made the new stuff look a little different. inside, still opened up good tho. there was a guy on you tube that had to stop making videos because off work, he went in to good detail on some ammo. can't remember the name right now.

 

[Newtosavage]

Nice.

Many of us who own 7.62x39's in accurate platforms understand just how well the round can shoot and also how effective it is on medium sized game at reasonable distances. I've owned two Savage 7.62x39 scout rifles and now run a Howa Mini in 7.62x39 that I doubt I'll ever give up. Love that little gun and it shoots lights-out.

Have fun with yours!

 

[Armored farmer]

I never really liked my sks, but was impressed with the 7.62x39 round. I made some trades and wound up here:

Ruger American ranch 7.62x39. 3x9 bdc Nikon
Not a pistol but definitely a compact little 7.62

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

Looks like I'm not alone with the love of the Russian round. I used my 16" carbine 7.62x39 and a reloaded .308 diameter 135 FTX and dropped 2 deer this past deer season. Shots were ~30 yards and both ran about that far and fell. Now to wait til next season to bloody my pistol.

 

[SharpDog]

For all the naysayers that say the x39 isn't accurate, won't hit a barn, etc etc. Well myself and many knowledgeable people here know that's just not the case.

Get a quality barrel, ammo, and voila you'll have a good shooter. Well recently I picked up a Hardened Arms 10.5" 7.62x39 pistol upper and slapped a Sig Romeo red dot and a 5x magnifier on it. Shooting factory Federal Fusion 123 grain here is shots at 50 yards.View attachment 831557

Then I moved to 100 yards and made a single shot.View attachment 831558

Decided to shoot some water filled milk jugs at 100 yards to check expansion with the slower velocity of the pistol barrel, it penetrated 4 gallon jugs and stopped in the 5th. Bullet weighed 119.8 grains and can't get much better than this.
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Gonna do some deer hunting with it next year and I'm sure it's gonna be fine at reasonable ranges. And I couldn't be happier

I've got the same upper on my Sig PM400. Couldn't be happier as well. I'm running a big Trij Rx30 RDS.

 

[Newtosavage]

I never really liked my sks, but was impressed with the 7.62x39 round. I made some trades and wound up here:
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Ruger American ranch 7.62x39. 3x9 bdc Nikon
Not a pistol but definitely a compact little 7.62

A pretty good place to end up. Ruger was smart in offering that 7.62x39 ranch rifle. My buddy has one and loves it.

 

[MachIVshooter]

For all the naysayers that say the x39 isn't accurate, won't hit a barn, etc etc. Well myself and many knowledgeable people here know that's just not the case.

In years past, the 7.62x39 round earned that reputation for the same reason the .22 Hornet and .222 Rem are well established as very accurate rounds; the firearms so chambered. Cartridges are not inherently accurate or inaccurate, but if they're only every chambered in guns that perform one way or the other, that's the reputation they'll earn. Through the 2000s, 7.62x39 was pretty much only chambered in sloppy autoloading firearms. It's only been in the last decade that the x39 has been put in firearms with average accuracy better than 3 MOA.

The powder capacity, case neck, overall length and rifling twists used in 7.62x39 rifles are still going to preclude it making any inroads for distance shooting, but there's no reason it can't be be very accurate at shorter ranges with good bullets going down a good barrel.

 

[troy fairweather]

I love my cz 527 7.62x39 hope to get on in 223 and 6.5G.

 

[Newtosavage]

In years past, the 7.62x39 round earned that reputation for the same reason the .22 Hornet and .222 Rem are well established as very accurate rounds; the firearms so chambered. Cartridges are not inherently accurate or inaccurate, but if they're only every chambered in guns that perform one way or the other, that's the reputation they'll earn. Through the 2000s, 7.62x39 was pretty much only chambered in sloppy autoloading firearms. It's only been in the last decade that the x39 has been put in firearms with average accuracy better than 3 MOA.

The powder capacity, case neck, overall length and rifling twists used in 7.62x39 rifles are still going to preclude it making any inroads for distance shooting, but there's no reason it can't be be very accurate at shorter ranges with good bullets going down a good barrel.

While not "long" distance, I enjoyed watching someone I taught to shoot, clean 9 straight clays at 300 yards with my Savage 7.62x39 scout, using a 2-7x scope and $5.99/box steel case ammo. She was dialed in and it was some of the most impressive shooting I've ever seen, by anyone.

 

[MachIVshooter]

While not "long" distance, I enjoyed watching someone I taught to shoot, clean 9 straight clays at 300 yards with my Savage 7.62x39 scout, using a 2-7x scope and $5.99/box steel case ammo. She was dialed in and it was some of the most impressive shooting I've ever seen, by anyone.

No kidding. That's not too difficult with a Varmint rifle and high magnification optics, actually used to do quite a bit of that off my buddy's back deck, which was 324 yards from the burm, with a Howa 1500 varmint in .223, Rem 700 VLSF .17 Rem and Ruger KM77 Mk II Varmint in .220 Swift. But those rifles all wore optics with top magnification of 18x, 16x and 20x respectively. With a 2-7x optic, that's tough even when the rifle is capable. Clays are really small at 300+ yards.

 

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Been saying that on here for quite some time. Spend some money on a good barrel and steel case fodder can turn out some pretty good targets. Load up some .308 bullets and grin away.

 

[TN Outlaw]

I'm in the same camp. Never thought much of the x39mm other than it being a dirt cheap version of a 30-30 so I decided to buy a CZ 527 carbine. Wow!

With bulk steel, it's an avg shooter. Good enough to easily hit a Skoal can sized target at 150yds with pretty boring regularity but with ammo the gun likes, it punches pretty little cloverleaf holes.

Mine likes blue box 123gr Federal Power Shok SP's. Shoots it lights out. The Fusion, Core-Lokt, American Eagle all shoot around 1" and for some reason the Hornady steel cased SST it didn't like very much and I thought that would be a dandy round. I haven't tried the brass version (Hornady Black) nor the 154gr sp Tulammo but I'm hopeful.

Not only did it turn out to be an excellent shooter but it's one of the more fun guns to shoot that I have. An AR x39mm or the Howa or Ruger version would be fun as well I'm sure.

 

[LRDGCO]

Great to see enthusiasm for the 30-30's little Russian cousin. It seems not everything has to be 6.5mm...

 

[Riomouse911]

My old-style Mini-30 is a fun gun, but it is nowhere near as accurate as my AR in 7.62x39. My Russian-chambered AR is very accurate, and is also a lot of fun to shoot. I don't have a pistol-length AR or AK, but I can imagine they're a hoot!

The Russian is a great cartridge; little recoil, found everywhere from dirt cheap to good hunting rounds and it has enough oomph for medium game at reasonable ranges... and it still can double duty for defense with just about anything it is fed.

All around, it's good stuff!

Stay safe.

 

[Newtosavage]

No kidding. That's not too difficult with a Varmint rifle and high magnification optics, actually used to do quite a bit of that off my buddy's back deck, which was 324 yards from the burm, with a Howa 1500 varmint in .223, Rem 700 VLSF .17 Rem and Ruger KM77 Mk II Varmint in .220 Swift. But those rifles all wore optics with top magnification of 18x, 16x and 20x respectively. With a 2-7x optic, that's tough even when the rifle is capable. Clays are really small at 300+ yards.

I spotted her in to the first clay, and when I asked her, she was holding 11" high and 3" to the right.

I got her last shot on video and you can watch the bullet trace into the clay pigeon. The girl was in the zone. A natural shooter.

 

[Newtosavage]

I'm in the same camp. Never thought much of the x39mm other than it being a dirt cheap version of a 30-30 so I decided to buy a CZ 527 carbine. Wow!

With bulk steel, it's an avg shooter. Good enough to easily hit a Skoal can sized target at 150yds with pretty boring regularity but with ammo the gun likes, it punches pretty little cloverleaf holes.

Mine likes blue box 123gr Federal Power Shok SP's. Shoots it lights out. The Fusion, Core-Lokt, American Eagle all shoot around 1" and for some reason the Hornady steel cased SST it didn't like very much and I thought that would be a dandy round. I haven't tried the brass version (Hornady Black) nor the 154gr sp Tulammo but I'm hopeful.

Not only did it turn out to be an excellent shooter but it's one of the more fun guns to shoot that I have. An AR x39mm or the Howa or Ruger version would be fun as well I'm sure.

My 7.62x39 bolt actions over the past few years, have always been the "fun" gun at the range. Most of the time, before I hand one to a friend, I tell them "before you even ask, this rifle is not for sale." LOL They usually look confused when I say that, but after 8-10 rounds they understand why.

 

[TN Outlaw]

My 7.62x39 bolt actions over the past few years, have always been the "fun" gun at the range. Most of the time, before I hand one to a friend, I tell them "before you even ask, this rifle is not for sale." LOL They usually look confused when I say that, but after 8-10 rounds they understand why.

I was going to say in my earlier post but forgot, nearly everyone that has shot mine starts asking how much they sale for and are interested in getting one. They are a good time.

I eventually plan to load some with CFE BLK and try to achieve the velocities you and others have been wringing out of the x39mm. Maybe try some 160gr FTX's. Wasn't it you that played around with those not too long ago with good results?

 

[troy fairweather]

I was going to say in my earlier post but forgot, nearly everyone that has shot mine starts asking how much they sale for and are interested in getting one. They are a good time.

I eventually plan to load some with CFE BLK and try to achieve the velocities you and others have been wringing out of the x39mm. Maybe try some 160gr FTX's. Wasn't it you that played around with those not too long ago with good results?

id lie to try the cfe blk to. what have you found for load data. i am thinking the sierra .311 bullet looks nice and not to pricey. like to do some pc cast bullets to.

 

[TN Outlaw]

id lie to try the cfe blk to. what have you found for load data. i am thinking the sierra .311 bullet looks nice and not to pricey. like to do some pc cast bullets to.

Well, I still am in the "thought" portion. Other words, I haven't researched much loading data but Im thinking of trying a couple .308" bullets (135gr FTX & 160gr FTX) for a whitetail round for my kids.

Of course I would have to eventually try the little 123gr SST, which I think is .311", as lots of people are stating velocities of 2600fps with below max loads. My CZ don't like this bullet in the steel match loading from Hornady but I'd like to try it myself still.

 

[Jeff H]

This thread is light on pictures of this 7.62x39 pistol.