Kentucky-roughrider
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How does the 7.92x33 round compare with the 7.62.39 round, in every way? Other than finding the ammo, I know the 7.62 x 39 wins hands down there.
7.92x33 vs 7.62x39
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highlander 5
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Don't know who makes 7.92x33 but you should be able to make it from Remington 7 mm BR brass.
Mizar
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If you are comparing the original, military FMJ round, they have practically the same ballistics. No winners and losers here - 90 fps difference is nothing.
Boris
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Kentucky-roughrider
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I was looking mainly at the orginal FMJ round, I doubted there was a hunting round built in 7.92x 33.
rcmodel
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Actually, the only American made 7.92x33 Kurz ammo available is loaded with a 125 JHP hunting bullet.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-AHRN80491
The thing is though, how many 7.92x33 Kurz STG-44 rifles are out there to hunt with??
Not hardly any I'd have to guess.
rc
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/7-AHRN80491
The thing is though, how many 7.92x33 Kurz STG-44 rifles are out there to hunt with??
Not hardly any I'd have to guess.
rc
HoosierQ
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Always seemed like it would be a neat round to resurrect. Problem is, that won't happen because of the predominance of 7.62x39 and for that matter 30-30. Two rounds that in theory should be just about the same, and between them covering a very wide array of platforms.
It would be neat but it wouldn't fill an empty niche and thus wouldn't catch on.
It would be neat but it wouldn't fill an empty niche and thus wouldn't catch on.
Jim Watson
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Wasn't somebody making or planning to make a repro semiauto StG 44 in the original caliber? I found some mention on the www but no actual source of guns.
rcmodel
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I guess Sport Systeme Dittrich in germany is making them.
But I don't think any have been, or can be imported here?
http://www.ssd-weapon.com/BD_44.html
rc
But I don't think any have been, or can be imported here?
http://www.ssd-weapon.com/BD_44.html
rc
WardenWolf
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7.62x39 ammo is everywhere, in both FMJ and soft point. PRVI makes a very nasty soft point for it that resembles a .30-30 round. Silver Bear and a variety of other manufacturers also have both FMJ and soft point.
Mizar
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Well, it's for the same reason why we have .30-06 when there is 8x57, .300 Win Mag when there is 8x68... Just because.
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highlander 5
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I believe the price on the semi auto version of the STG 44 was somewhere south of $4k.
That's a lot of money for a reproduction of a WW II combat rifle.
That's a lot of money for a reproduction of a WW II combat rifle.
R.W.Dale
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Because 7.92x33 doesn't function through a standard AR15 Mag or use standard upper components.
The fact that its a 60 year old cartridge shooting a completely unpopular diameter bullet only chambered for one gun may have something to do with that.
The 7.92 bullet was only chambered for one gun ? ? ? ? ? ?
R.W.Dale
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No 7.92x33 was
As to 8mm bullets as a general caliber its worldwide popularity is only surpassed by its unpopularity here in the US. Every 8mm caliber model introduced as sporting firearms have been massive unmitigated flops.
Aside from cheap milsurps and corrosive ammo by in large Americans don't want anything to do with 8mm.
This said I'd still like to have a rem700 classic in 8x57
Carl N. Brown
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The local wholesaler, Widener's, has 7.92x33 Kurz Prvi Partisan listed:
PPKURZF PRVI 7.92X33 KURZ 124GR FMJBT $12.95/20 or $308.75/500
I have seen one StG44 in my lifetime so far, oddly enough at Jefferson Davis' last home Beauvoir at Biloxi, Mississippi, in a military display not limited (obviously) to Civil War mementos. I recognized StG44s in news photos for Middle Eastern conflicts.
Russia must have a lot of StG44s. Their movie industry (like that stirring action flick "Pirates of the 20th Century" which I may never see) uses StG44s dressed up as M16s. In real life, East Germany used them after WWII, and then passed them on to 3rd world communist clients as AKs became available.
PPKURZF PRVI 7.92X33 KURZ 124GR FMJBT $12.95/20 or $308.75/500
I have seen one StG44 in my lifetime so far, oddly enough at Jefferson Davis' last home Beauvoir at Biloxi, Mississippi, in a military display not limited (obviously) to Civil War mementos. I recognized StG44s in news photos for Middle Eastern conflicts.
Russia must have a lot of StG44s. Their movie industry (like that stirring action flick "Pirates of the 20th Century" which I may never see) uses StG44s dressed up as M16s. In real life, East Germany used them after WWII, and then passed them on to 3rd world communist clients as AKs became available.
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R.W.Dale said:
While the StG-44 was the most common rifle in said chambering, about 10,000 of the semi-auto Volkssturmgewehr 1-5 (pictured below) rifles were produced. There were also several others in various stages of design (Sturmgewehr 45, HIW VSK, Wimmersperg Spz-kr, et al.) before Nazi Germany collapsed.
And the first FAL`s were chambered in the 7.92 Kurz.While the StG-44 was the most common rifle in said chambering, about 10,000 of the semi-auto Volkssturmgewehr 1-5 (pictured below) rifles were produced. There were also several others in various stages of design (Sturmgewehr 45, HIW VSK, Wimmersperg Spz-kr, et al.) before Nazi Germany collapsed.
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