"92% of Americans support background checks"

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Someone on my Facebook feed just shared this picture released by Obama:

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A quick Google search seems to agree with this, but I can't help but feel that the stats have been manipulated somehow because there really doesn't seem to be that much appetite for a ban or other control measures.
 
The lack of details will always influence polling. Many people will support a generalization of something but when the details begin to emerge the support plummets. As an example: I( support gun control if you define it as "having control of your weapons" but I do not support gun control that is defined as "give up your weapons". In polling the definition of the issue is too often left up to the imagination of the person being polled.
 
I think since it says "all gun sales" they are trying to state that 92% of Americans support universal background checks. It is supposedly from a CBS/NYT poll...92% of CBS and NYT employees support UBC.
 
60% of the time, it works every time...

Even with my limited POLI/SCI background in stats and polling, I could get you a poll that says anything you want it to say.
 
I can produce a poll with 100% results against a universal background check by cherry picking who I ask and tell you I was totally objective in who I asked. Would be no less accurate than APC's.

Andy
 
Blackstone;

You don't know? Well then, go to your local firearms retailer & purchase a gun. At that time you will fill out and sign a Federal form 4473. That form will require that you positively identify yourself and sets forth penalties if you falsify your ID. The retailer will then call the Feds & transmit the information to them. The national criminal database will be searched to see if you're a bad guy. The Feds have 72 hours to either approve or deny the sale. If you've fraudulently tried to buy, you may very well be in trouble.

And no, I don't believe for a moment that 92% of Americans approve of increased background checks.

900F
 
The check system that is currently in place, is that when you buy ANY gun from a dealer, which includes most used guns and ALL new guns, you fill out a questionairre that askes you questions about things like drug addiction, mental health, and general criminal history. The dealer fills out the information, and calls a hotline, and checks you against a federal database to ensure that you haven't been convicted of a felony or been declared mentally insane. They ask if you are purchasing a handgun or a long gun. they do not ask for model or serial number. They reply with a yes or a no. If it's a yes, the purchase is approved. If it's no, you will have to do some questioning and appeals to find out why. (The vast majority of the time, it's a mistake, someone with information similar to yours with a criminal history. Criminals don't submit to background checks when they know they will fail.) The dealer retains the gun model and serial number information on his copy of the form and files it.

In theory, this protects the buyer's privacy. If the government doesn't get the model and serial number when they get the phone call for the check, they don't have a way to construct a database of all guns and their owners. The problem is, the government (The bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives,) can come in and look at the dealer's records anytime they want to, unannounced, without a warrant. So, the government still does have a way to check the records.

The law they are currently debating, is whether or not ALL gun trasactions must go through a dealer. Right now, I can sell a gun to my friend with no paperwork. I can place an online ad and sell to someone (face-to-face, not through the mail, not over state lines,) with no paperwork. At a gun show, you can sell a gun to anyone you want to. The media is trying to convince people that gun shows are just these places where anyone can walk in and buy anything they want to from anyone else with no paperwork, and it's not true at all.
 
I still have a Brooklyn, NY area code on my cell phone and got a survey call a couple of months ago asking me how I thought Bloomberg and his policies were doing. I didn't tell them I moved but I told them what I thought, halfway through they cut me off and ended the survey - I don't think my opinions were added to their poll results. :)
 
Remember, Mark Twain said something to the effect that there are three kinds of lies, lies, damn lies, and statistics.
 
That apple pie is red. It appears to be a cherry pie.

If our government can't even keep their pies straight, how-in-the-hell may they be trusted with statistics about anything.

I see! Make up statistics that correspond with pictures of a different pie, and everyone will believe it!

Source: The American Pie Council! BWAAHAAHAA!

I hope everyone got and filled-out their NRA-ILA survey. The truth is out there.
 
"IF" it would have any positive effect on criminals, why not? But, we all know it won't, so... Now on a side note, has ANY member of THR been asked their input on this poll? Aren't we Americans too? I am, and I wasn't asked, so with that logic there is no way to say what percentage agreed to ANYTHING. Only a percentage of those who were asked make up this number. Sit in a room of vegetarians and ask them if they feel killing rabbits should require .gov approval and guess which way the needle will tilt. Do the same in a room of hunters and what happens? Unless I'm personally asked, any poll doesn't count.
 
Can I also ask what part of the Constitution would universal registration violate?
Blackstone, it depends on how the word is used in an anti Constitutional manner, attached to a dishonest piece of legislation. Not so black and white.

e.g. We're going to require universal registration, as a prelude to confiscation, in direct violation of the 2nd amendment.
 
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