9mm carry ammo for short barrel?

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Decided to finally "invest" in some good carry ammo for my KelTec PF-9 now that it's with me all the time. Right now it just has some 147gr Winchester White Box hollow points. Figured it was better than ball and was slightly surprised to see it sitting on the shelf at Walmart.

Stopped at Sportsman's Warehouse and looked around. Figured nothing +P.

They had 115gr Hornady Critical Defense, Remington 147gr Golden Sabre, and Winchester 147gr Supreme Elite. Couple other spaces but nothing on the shelf.

Any of this better for short barrels? Anything else better to look for?
 
There is a gold dot loading specifically for short barrels. The one I have seen is 124gr+p. Otherwise i seem to remember that heavier bullets perform better in short barrels, so any 147gr should be a good bet.
 
I have a new P11 and haven't tried anything other than 115gr fmj so far. Still giving it a bit of a break in period. But I had heard that Keltecs don't handle 147gr very well. Any truth to that rumor?
 
Don't have a P11 but my PF-9 will eat and shoot anything I feed it. Steel cased Russian or 147gr hollow points. Only thing I've noticed is the recoil is heavier with the 147's (obviously).
 
I use a Georgia a rms 124gr hp +P load that runs at 1200fps in a glock 17, in my kahr cw9 its 1185fps average and in the cm9 its 1152fps.
 
I stay away from the 147 grain stuff, doesn't feed well in my P11 and it's too slow and has a pathetic record on the street in service guns, let alone short barrels. I prefer Corbon 115 JHP. It shoots over 1250 fps in my gun, hits POA, is 100 percent reliable, is 3.5" at 25 yards accurate. YMMV, but TESTING is the answer. You can't just buy stuff off the shelf for carry and not bother testing it in the gun.
 
I think the problem with short barrels is that it's hard for bullets to reach optimum velocity, causeing them to not expand as well. In such a short barrel I'd run +P. Probably not that fun to shoot, but it'll get the job done. Walmart sells Winchester PDX1 9mm +P. Not sure of bullet weight.
 
Federal HST in 147 grain. If it were a bigger short barreled gun like a Glock 26 I'd say there's no harm in the +P version, but with a skinny little PF-9 the slight (advertised as 50 foot per second difference between the two) gain in velocity is outweighed for most by the slower followups.

Expands very well, even at very low velocities, and 9mm doesn't really suffer much from being fired out of a 3" barrel. Heavier bullets lose less velocity than lightweights out of shorter barrels, and these days the velocity window for a bullet to expand properly is an independent variable, it's not some fixed number of feet per second that doesn't change even when the bullet does. I believe the heavy HST is supposed to expand well all the way down to 700 feet per second or so.

About 25 years ago when people first started using 147 JHP bullets, service pistol bullet design was in a kind of early puberty state, at the time the only bullets that would reliably expand were the lightly constructed bullets, light for caliber, driven as fast as possible. Revolvers used to have an advantage because they were insensitive to feeding, and manufacturers hadn't quite figured out how to make a bullet expand reliably and feed well in an auto without using the old lightly built/fast duet. They were basically making reverse-jacketed FMJ bullets with a hole in the nose.

Things are different now, there has been a lot of time and money thrown into researching how and why service pistol bullets do what they do, and while any bullet can fail to expand for no observable reason, or behave in ways no one could predict, we've gotten much better at predicting how they will behave the bulk of the time. Basically any of the current crop of bullets in 124, 147, or +P versions of either will serve very well as a defensive bullet.
 
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