A couple of Jewels,too purdy to shoot

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Please understand that I am not downing YOUR choices of firearms.

I would very much like to know the manufacturer and manufacture date of both guns.

Those are nice BBQ closet bling queens, but are not anywhere near historical insofar as repros go, and I am disregarding the laser engraving.

Your first one is an 1851 Navy brass framed .44 with what I perceive to be a 9"-10" barrel with a very long load lever. It never happened.

Your second one is an 1851 Navy .44 semi-fluted cylinder with a 4" barrel and short load lever. It never happened.

Any info you can supply will be very much appreciated, sir!

Regards,

Jim
 
Beautiful workmanship! Thanks for showing them to us. I would have them in a display case with the lights set to show them off. Of course, I have enough regular cap and ball revolvers I can take that approach. But imagine the crowd that would gather if you were shooting them on a sunny day.

Jeff
 
expat_alaska said:
Please understand that I am not downing YOUR choices of firearms.

I would very much like to know the manufacturer and manufacture date of both guns.

Those are nice BBQ closet bling queens, but are not anywhere near historical insofar as repros go, and I am disregarding the laser engraving.

Your first one is an 1851 Navy brass framed .44 with what I perceive to be a 9"-10" barrel with a very long load lever. It never happened.

Your second one is an 1851 Navy .44 semi-fluted cylinder with a 4" barrel and short load lever. It never happened.

Any info you can supply will be very much appreciated, sir!

Regards,

Jim
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I'm gonna guess both are Piettas. I have the bottom one ... the silver one, and THAT one is Pietta. It is a "fantasy gun." The brass frame might be, most likely, a Confederate revolver of some type.
 
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Yes, the wood is very nice, much better than the quarter-sawn stuff that passes for wood these days. I like figure, probably from my days in the 60's as a kid looking at Fajen and Bishop catalogs.

Both are massaged Piettas.

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Regards,

Jim
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That’s some craftsmanship there. I’ve thought of making custom grips for my 1858 pietta. Something a little beefier would make it a little easier for me to grip I think.
 
expat_alaska said:
Please understand that I am not downing YOUR choices of firearms.

I would very much like to know the manufacturer and manufacture date of both guns.

Those are nice BBQ closet bling queens, but are not anywhere near historical insofar as repros go, and I am disregarding the laser engraving.

Your first one is an 1851 Navy brass framed .44 with what I perceive to be a 9"-10" barrel with a very long load lever. It never happened.

Your second one is an 1851 Navy .44 semi-fluted cylinder with a 4" barrel and short load lever. It never happened.

Any info you can supply will be very much appreciated, sir!

Regards,

Jim
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If I understand correctly, Colt's didn't make any version of what we call a Model 1851 in .44cal. Pietta, IMO, made a decent shooting gun by using the 1860 barrel/cylinder with the 1851 grip/guard and the up-calibered barrel assembly.
 
Olon said:
That’s some craftsmanship there. I’ve thought of making custom grips for my 1858 pietta. Something a little beefier would make it a little easier for me to grip I think.
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Not intended to be historically accurate, but have you thought of checkering your new custom grip?
 
mustanger98 said:
Not intended to be historically accurate, but have you thought of checkering your new custom grip?
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The factory grip is checkered and I like that part of it so if I can get some decent tools for it then I’d like to checked it.

I’m not so much of a purist with replicas. It’s cool to have something that’s historically accurate but I like bp revolvers because they’re fun to shoot!
 
Tommygunn said:
I'm gonna guess both are Piettas. I have the bottom one ... the silver one, and THAT one is Pietta. It is a "fantasy gun." The brass frame might be, most likely, a Confederate revolver of some type.
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Is the silver one a nickle plate or stainless, there's one on Gunbroker claiming it's stainless?
 
Ive had the same gun. Its not stainless, its in the white but dipped in some kind of hardener. They call it "pickling". Its the same as the "old silver" line up. I got rid of the laser etched engraved gun but i kept my "old silver" 1851 navy. Its an amazing gun...they seem to pay more attention to detail and the fitting of the pietta old silver line up. Everyone i let handle it comments on how it seems to be a step up from the standard quality. To my knowledge Pietta doesnt make any colt replicas in stainless, only their remington model. Im still praying that pietta will someday soon come out with a stainless colt model. I would buy a pair of 1851s, 1861s, and 1860s in stainless if i could. I wonder why they haven't come out with a stainless model...it would be a for sure seller.
 
Robhof said - "Is the silver one a nickle plate or stainless, there's one on Gunbroker claiming it's stainless?"

Pietta advertises the bottom one as "Polished Steel" and their 1858 as "Stainless Steel."
From EMF's online website:
Temporarily out-
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1851-Navy-U-S-Marshal-44-5-1-2-110p1808.htm
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1851-Navy-Dlx-U-S-Marshal-44-5-1-2-CW-110p1812.htm
Temporarily out-
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1851-Navy-Dlx-U-S-Marshal-44-5-1-2-UI-110p2179.htm
also available similar in .36:
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1851-Captain-Schaeffer-36-4-UI-110p1854.htm
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/1858-REMINGTON-STAINLESS-STEEL-ARMY-44-8-111p1182.htm

The top one is nickel and was available like this or with the frame in nickel as well awhile ago from ASM and later Pietta.
ASM-
https://www.gunsamerica.com/9069833...Colt-Navy-Brass-44-Caliber-Revolver-18512.htm
ASMwm_7825560.jpg
Pietta-
http://www.oldsouthfirearms.com/Traditions1851NavyEngraved.44CalNickelBlackPowderRevolver.aspx
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Pie...-Caliber-Revolver-with-Starter-Kit/734627.uts
 
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jpy15026 here,
I didn't expect so many responses to my pics : )
Thanks Guys
I bought both of these because of their beauty and uniqueness,

Here's another one that should cause even more excitement,Never saw anything like it before and just "Had to have it"
check out my latest find

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This is absolutely the only info on this gun on the net, that’s what makes it so rare. I never saw one before and doubt I would ever see one again. Muzzle loading Forums call it intriguing and unique , nobody seems to be able to find anything other than this.

http://poudrenoire.free.fr/armes/1843GPfoster.html

Georges Pratt Foster
A New England gunsmith: George Pratt Foster (1810-1874)
Google translation from French description
Pistol of current manufacture. Rare enough model Bondini having closed in the 70s.
Specifications Caliber .45
Barrel length 220mm diameter 26mm
total length 405mm
Weight 1580grams
Polished steel barrel
Brass carcass with chest engraved on both sides
Jasped steel dog engraved
Steel bridge
Brass handle frame underneath
barley grain handlebar with adjustable blinds in width by dovetail
rising Winchester type with height adjustment screw and width dovetail
Walnut butt pads, very big handle.
Single-shot pistol with double precision stecher detent.
Excellent accuracy at 25 meters

Uberti in Italy makes quality, high end, reproduction Uberti made the “1843 Bondini” in 1970 (50 years ago) but apparently only made very few in 1970
Finding this one made in 1970 is probably as rare as finding one of GP Foster’s original Bondini’s made in 1843!
 
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Very nice! Date code is 1980 [AF]. Is the stamp on the barrel to the rear of the P. Bondini sig a Pedersoli (DP) mark?

Regards,

Jim
 
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TikkaShooter said:
I'd bet you also remember the Montgomery Ward's of the North, Herter's? ;)
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Sir, you have no idea how correct you are! As a teen in the 60's in Detroit MI, my Dad would order a Herter's (Waseca MN) catalog every year and he (and I) would pore over it many, many nights down at the wet bar in the basement, and he would always have country music records (mostly bluegrass) playing. I cannot recall how many things he ordered from them, but it was VERY many, mostly firearms related items. He considered it his mail-order bible. He once had a copy of George Leonard Herter's "Maine Guide Book", and that was a hoot to read! Herter's always billed themselves as the pre-eminent source of goods via mail-order.

He had a 1932 field grade Win Model 12 16 gauge 2-3/4" (FC) that, in the era, needed "prettying up". He used Herter's Belgian Bluing solution along with a birdseye maple (blond) buttstock and fore-end from E.C. Bishop. I remember it taking about 6-7 hours to do the bluing (and I helped!), and it turned out 1960's "gorgeous".

Now you are making me feel very old, but I thank you for the memory!

And I am off-topic for this thread.

Regards,

Jim
 
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