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This gun was in a fire. Guess I really didn't have to share that. I'd like to find new wood for it. The IMG_0012.jpg IMG_0012.jpg
 

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Sorry, I think I cut myself off. I think I got the steel parts but the wood is pretty deeply burnt. Any ideas on where I might find replacements? Or any suggestions or advice. Thanks
 
A little more info on the piece might help. It looks like a Marlin. How about model and caliber? Pictures of the fore end, barrel, etc. also.

Boyds gunstocks has wood. I've heard the butt stocks fit perfect. The fore end may not. Measure yours before you order to verify theirs is the right length for you.
 
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Looking at the pictures of the butt stock it looks as though the finish was just starting to bubble and blister. I'm thinking that happens at a fairly low temperature. Most heat treated steels start to lose their hardness at about 300 degrees.
 
Looking at the pictures of the butt stock it looks as though the finish was just starting to bubble and blister. I'm thinking that happens at a fairly low temperature. Most heat treated steels start to lose their hardness at about 300 degrees.
That's where it starts. But things would need to get up closer to 400F before the springs would start to take a set and need replacing. The downside is that if the finish and wood below is charred like it is then chances are good that things got to that point.

The trigger and hammer will likely be softer than ideal at this point along with all the springs having taken a new set. The good news is that someone that knows how to harden and temper could re-harden and temper back those parts. The rest of the steel parts SHOULD be OK other than the springs which may have taken a new set or even softened due to the temperature. And don't forget that if the extractor is a long spring style extractor such as used on a Winchester 94 or 92 that it too will likely need to be swapped or re-hardened and tempered back to the proper spring temper. And even if it's a pivoting arm style sprung by a small coil or other separate spring that the hook will have softened and will likely wear or deform sooner. So it's a part which should likely be re-hardened and re-tempered or replaced.

Finding replacement wood should not be an issue. I'm sure if you google for "replacement stocks for XXXXXX rifle" that a few options will jump up at you. If new reproductions it's likely that some minor fitting will be needed since it would make sense to make the fit "tight" so it can be fitted to each gun perfectly. So some work will be needed. Or if you luck into some older good conditioned used stocks perhaps you'll need to "bed" the connections to get a good supportive fit that focuses the recoil energy into the proper part of the shoulder stock. In this case since the left side cover is removable I'm going to guess that this is the rear roundings of the tangs and perhaps the front shoulder of the right side.
 
Great help. I'll start the hunt. Thanks for the direction! I can retemper I believe but will check, that this was "Grampa's" and it's not to be shot. Definitely got to check. Thanks
 
Guys, springs and other small parts are tempered to a higher temperature than needed for a wood stock to charr - OP might need only a new furniture (and good cleaning) for his rifle, don't scare him from the start...
 
I went through the same process some years ago after a house fire. Shopping at the above sites and online you can find most everything you need for a restore job.
 
Meh. I would just trash the whole gun.This isn't any great rarity.

Or, save it for one of those "gun buybacks."

The real question is one of economics. The amount you spend on restoration, including parts and labor, is unlikely to equal the value of the gun afterwards.
 
It's toast.
"Tempering" or "retempering" refers to the process, after hardening, to relieve the stresses caused by hardening. If the steel is not re-hardened then tempering is a useless process. The steel in this instance has been completely compromised.
 
If I were doing the work for you, I would suggest one thing. Take that rifle completely apart and send the stripped barreled action and bolt to Marlin for a heat-treatment verification. There is no sense in buying a new bridle for a horse that's coughing. The discoloration of that receiver, in the excellent pictures you've provided, is what troubles me. And, it would be nice to check the bolt for Rockwell hardness also. Pressures from rifle rounds could be step #2 in the process of ruining a softened up ( annealed ) receiver even more.
As was mentioned above, and I agree wholeheartedly, the springs are all toast, and I'm sure the scope lenses have walked off the job also.

Dennis
 
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