A very morbid question.

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444, the blank, as I understand it, is about giving the executioners a psychological out. "I didn't shoot him; I had the blank."

From birth we are taught that killing is wrong. The blank is part of the denial process to help one cope in taking a human life.

IIRC, Grossman in "On Killing" discusses this in depth. Do you have this book? Have to read it for gun skul?
 
I guess if you were really emotional about it, you might be able to convince yourself that you had the blank. But that begs the question of why they volunteered for the firing squad in the first place if they had such a moral aversion to it ?
 
"What happened to Massachusetts burning at the stake?

They went from burning witches at the stack to nothing."

Urban legend.

Not a single supposed witch was burned at the stake in Massachusetts. In Europe, yes, hundreds of thousands over several centuries.

In Salem, though, 19 were hanged, and one was pressed to death by having boards laid on top of him and stones piled on the boards.
 
"Or maybe the prison system used .30-30s for the guards in the towers ?"

I think that's your answer.

Winchester rifles and law enforcement agencies in the West have a long and very productive history.

For many years the LAPD sargent's cars had a Winchester .30-30 in the trunk.

There are many pictures of Texas and Oklahoma Rangers, and almost to a man they're carrying Winchesters.

There's one, of Texas Rangers, taken around 1905. IIRC there are nearly a dozen Rangers shown -- most have Winchesters, a couple of 1895s and others that aren't so identifiable, and one lonely Ranger has a Krag.
 
444,

For centuries, people western cultures were simply taught that killing a man "in cold blood" was wrong, morally "dirty," or someting to be ashamed of. Remember how in the days of beheadings in England, it was customary for the condemned to tell the (masked) executioner, "I forgive you" ?
that begs the question of why they volunteered for the firing squad in the first place if they had such a moral aversion to it ?
Some of the background is from historic military procedure. I'm talking about folklore, and I don't have any specific references, but I expect that there have been times when people were assigned to firing squads, rather than volunteering for them.

Rifles being loaded out of sight of the riflemen, one loaded with a blank round, gave any members of the firing squad with moral or religiously-inspired misgivings a psychological way out of a sense of guilt for killing. That the condemned was getting the proper, prescribed punishment was not necessarily enough to overcome non-rational beliefs, especially for people who might not have had an advanced education in theology, philosophy, whatever. In times when one did as he was ordered, and in situations where it was seen as unmanly to admit less than enthusiasm for killing somebody, it created a private escape from the mental habits that went with having a good conscience. Instead of trying to find out soldiers' deep religious convictions and change (wrong) or make allowances for them, the blank round was a simple way to provide a grain of doubt in each man's mind that he had killed somebody that had been tied up in front of him.

I'm not talking about rational knowledge and rightness; it seems that the blank round was a way to allay the deep-seated, visceral sense of "the creeps" that might have had members of firing squads replaying the scene over and over in their minds, and developing a sense of personal guilt for their morally-correct actions.
 
I know I am beating a dead horse here, but I am good at it.

You would think that if someone had a deep down aversion to participating in a firing squad, that his accuracy would seriously suffer as a result. And, if you felt you had a blank, accuracy wouldn't matter.
 
Here is part of an article that addresses this issue for the Church.

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The notion of blood atonement as church doctrine persists, despite repeated statements to the contrary by LDS Church officials.
According to Weber State University criminologist L. Kay Gillespie's book, The Unforgiven: Utah's Executed Men, church officials in 1978 told the Utah Law Review: "There is simply no such thing among us as a doctrine of blood atonement. "
Church officials added that statements by past church leaders about blood atonement pertained to "a theoretical principle that has been neither revealed to nor practiced by us."
In 1984, serial killer Arthur Gary Bishop asked church leaders about blood atonement while deciding whether to die by lethal injection or a firing squad, according to Gillespie's book.
Bishop -- the slayer of five young boys -- received a response from Gordon B. Hinckley, then-counselor to church President Spencer W. Kimball, that the method of execution did not matter.
According to Gillespie, Hinckley told Bishop that "blood atonement ended with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. "
Bishop was executed four years later by lethal injection.

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Blessings to all,
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As I stated before, the doctrine of Blood Atonement by the LDS Church has been well documented (from earlier writings) and continues to this day to be a source of embarrassment for the LDS Church, and something which is easily proven:

http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no56.htm#Blood

It's all there in the early LDS Church's Prophet's own words. I must say again that I'm not looking to derail this thread into one of a theological catfight, but the truth in this case is easily proven. geegee
 
It is only fitting that the home state of JMB uses a rifle he designed (and sold to Winchester).
 
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