Actor Richard Widmark Dies:Gun Control Advocate & Hypocrite Leaves the Scene at 93

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There are so many actors now and in the past of the same stripe.
Sly Stallone,Sean Connery and Matt Damon come quickly to mind.
Widmark made his money mainly playing bad guys with a gun.
But his personal feelings about firearms?
Forgetaboutit.

http://www.miamiherald.com/511/story/471685.html

RICHARD WIDMARK, 93
Longtime leading man in the movies
Posted on Thu, Mar. 27, 2008
BY STEPHEN SINGER AND BOB THOMAS
Associated Press

HARTFORD, Conn. -- Richard Widmark, who made a sensational film debut as the giggling killer in Kiss of Death and became a leading man in Broken Lance, Two Rode Together and 40 other films, died at his home in Roxbury after a long illness. He was 93.

Widmark's wife, Susan Blanchard, said he died Monday. She would not provide details of his illness and said funeral arrangements are private.

''It was a big shock, but he was 93,'' Blanchard said.

Widmark earned an Academy Award nomination for best supporting actor for his role in the 1947 thriller Kiss of Death. He played Tommy Udo, who delighted in pushing an old lady in a wheelchair down a flight of stairs to her death. It was his only Oscar nomination.

''That damned laugh of mine!'' he told a reporter in 1961. ``For two years after that picture, you couldn't get me to smile. I played the part the way I did because the script struck me as funny and the part I played made me laugh. The guy was such a ridiculous beast.''

Actress Shirley Jones, who appeared with Widmark and James Stewart in Two Rode Together and became a good friend, said she was devastated about Widmark's death.

''He was a down-to-earth guy, and I respected him for that,'' Jones said in a phone interview from Los Angeles. ``He was a real guy, but he was such a wonderful actor.''

A.C. Lyles, a producer with Paramount Pictures, worked with Widmark on the 1975 western The Last Day.

''Dick was just one of the nicest guys I ever worked with: very, very professional, very, very prepared and he couldn't have been more cooperative,'' Lyles said.

A quiet, inordinately shy man, Widmark often portrayed killers, cops and Western gunslingers. But he said he hated guns.

''I know I've made kind of a half-assed career out of violence, but I abhor violence,'' he remarked in a 1976 Associated Press interview. ``I am an ardent supporter of gun control. It seems incredible to me that we are the only civilized nation that does not put some effective control on guns.''

Widmark was born Dec. 26, 1914, in Sunrise, Minn., where his father ran a general store, then became a traveling salesman.

Rejected by the Army because of a punctured eardrum, Widmark began appearing in Broadway plays in 1943. His first was a comedy hit Kiss and Tell. He was appearing in the Chicago company of Dream Girl with June Havoc when 20th Century Fox signed him to a seven-year contract. He almost missed out on the Kiss of Death role.

''The director, Henry Hathaway, didn't want me,'' the actor recalled. ''I have a high forehead; he thought I looked too intellectual.'' The director was overruled by studio boss Darryl F. Zanuck, and Hathaway ``gave me kind of a bad time.''

An immediate star, Widmark appeared in 20 Fox films from 1957 to 1964. Among them: The Street with No Name, Road House, Yellow Sky, Down to the Sea in Ships, Slattery's Hurricane, Panic in the Streets, No Way Out, The Halls of Montezuma, The Frogmen, Red Skies of Montana, My Pal Gus and the Samuel Fuller film noir Pickup on South Street.

In 1952, Widmark starred in Don't Bother to Knock with Marilyn Monroe. He told an interviewer in later years:

``She wanted to be this great star but acting just scared the hell out of her. That's why she was always late -- couldn't get her on the set. She had trouble remembering lines.''

``But none of it mattered. With a very few special people, something happens between the lens and the film that is pure magic. . . . And she really had it.''

After leaving Fox, Widmark's career continued to flourish. He starred with John Wayne in The Alamo, with James Stewart in John Ford's Two Rode Together, as the U.S. prosecutor in Judgment at Nuremberg and with Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas in The Way West. Also: St. Joan (as the Dauphin), How the West Was Won, Death of a Gunfighter, Murder on the Orient Express, Midas Run and Coma.

Madigan, a 1968 film with Widmark as a loner detective, was converted to television and lasted one season in 1972-73. It was Widmark's only TV series.

He also was in some TV films, including Cold Sassy Tree and Once Upon a Texas Train.
 
If every Liberal is one mugging away from enlightenment, I think it's time to hire a small army of muggers to get these sheep to think outside the Hollywood box. :p

Papajohn
 
None of y'all mentioned my favorite Widmark movie, the perfect Widmark movie;

"The Bedford Incident." I always thought he was playing himself in that one; a little too tightly wrapped, trying too hard, projecting his own thoughts onto others...

Wait, doesn't that describe a lot of antis?
 
If he didn't die with his boots on, so to speak, what's the point of the thread? Yeah, he was an anti, and you could make the case that that makes it firearms-related, but it isn't very THR to jeer when someone dies.

Politics aside, his loved ones still hurt just like yours would.
 
He was a person who worked for a living and made some films got paid went home and had his own life and felt the way he did. He has passed away, this is a lousy thread, should be shut down.

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WTH? A man dies, and a thread shows up here celebrating it by pointing out one facet of his life that we don't share? I SERIOUSLY hope that this thread is shut down, and would suggest that the OP and some of the commenters re-read the THR mission statement.
 
If he didn't die with his boots on, so to speak, what's the point of the thread? Yeah, he was an anti, and you could make the case that that makes it firearms-related, but it isn't very THR to jeer when someone dies.

Politics aside, his loved ones still hurt just like yours would.

WTH? A man dies, and a thread shows up here celebrating it and pointing out one facet of his life? I SERIOUSLY hope that this thread is shut down, and would suggest that the OP and some of the commenters re-read the THR mission statement
He was a person who worked for a living and made some films got paid went home and had his own life and felt the way he did. He has passed away, this is a lousy thread, should be shut down.

Sorry it bothered you.By sure to skip my coming thread on the next gun hating hypocrite entertainer to kick off.
There sure are a lot of sensitive folks around here.I could care less about Widmark or Gregory Peck's or Fredric March's or any other Socialist actors loved ones feelings.
This is not Dear Abby.Don't like the headline, move on.
And I think the word jeering is a little heavy ,o sensitive ones.You must have something better to do at 2:30 A.M. than put me in a bad humor with your ludicrous posts.
One other thing.This thread ran for 5 hours and no one made a comment.All of a sudden in the middle of the night 3 bad actors suddenly jump in and start thrashing the OP.It would be funny if it wasn't such bad theater.
 
Winchester, be sure to spread the love around to HQuinn and kingpin, too.

I'm not being "sensitive," it's just that I haven't forgotten what THR is supposed to mean.
 
Plus one on shutting this one down.
Richard Widmark was a man who worked for a living just like us.

How pissed off would we be if the antis gave Charelton Heston the same treatment?

My sincere condolences to his family.
 
I'll be bad character number 5 - this is very low class, and a very poor way to represent gun rights advocates.
 
I'll be bad character number 5 - this is very low class, and a very poor way to represent gun rights advocates

Well,this is a continuing drama.This thread started at 7:58 PM and went 5 hours without a comment.
The first 3 were anti-Widmark.Suddenly a wildfire of outrage breaks out condemning the thread and demanding it be shut down for violating THR mission statement.
During that 5 hours several Moderators including Arfin were on board and obviously some of them saw the headline and the thread.
If they felt it was in bad taste or demeaning they could have closed it at any time without any reinforcement from a pack of jackal like posters.Might be number 6 before this sees the light of day.It was in fact about to disappear from page 1 when the first comment hit.
So why wasn't it closed?My guess is that their attitude about the post wasn't nearly as extreme as this wolfpack baying in the night about the supposed offensive nature of the topic.

Perhaps by morning one will comment on the situation and make a decision.
We shall see.
 
Dead or Alive the fact that Widmark would deny Americans their rights deserves to be broadcast. He made a wealthy living and handling firearms was a big part of his acting.

He was a man who studied words, had to have a good grasp of the english language. He of all people should have known better then to piss on the 2nd Amendment.

There's over 4000 America's best now dead in the war.
He would have denied them a basic human right to keep and bear arms if they had come home alive.
I say: well bye.
 
The point isn't that we are pro-gun and the antis are anti-gun and tyrannical. The point of The High Road is to be "the bigger man" and to support your side and display yourself as a patriotic, law-abiding citizen.

You've done nothing illegal. You've simply pointed to a dead guy and said "We all see you for what you were." and I, as a fellow 2nd Amendment supporter, don't want to be a part of the "we" that you are refering to.

Also, you commenting on our lack of appreciation, calling us a "wolfpack baying in the night", doesn't effectively convince us that we should remember this guy as a tyrannical anti in his family's time of need. It just paints you as someone further looking to divide us as gun owners as you are between us and antis. I personally would respect an anti who respects others in death than I would a Second Amendment supporter who goes about name-calling at the time of one's death.

You can call this gun-related. It is obvious, however, that there are a few who here who consider your tact not of the caliber of this forum.

It may have been more "High Road" of you, as well as being more interesting and productive, to have started a thread about movie stars such as Wildmark, who make a living as gun-toting characters, but share anti-Second Amendment views in their lives, letting us know that Wildmark's death, in fact, sparked the idea and your disdain with the careers of such actors and actresses.
 
You can call this gun-related. It is obvious, however, that there are a few who here who consider your tact not of the caliber of this forum.

I see you went back and added a little more editorial comment MD, which does not interest me in the least.You do that charming thread if you wish and ride high on THR!
Right now you're only ahead 6-5 on the tactfulness of THIS thread so, when you say few here would consider the post not the caliber of the forum, is that not somewhat overstated?
Just another guy who can't sleep worrying about the morality of a meaningless topic on THR.
Pitiful.And I'm just as pitiful staying up and responding.
Good Morning.
 
Great Actor! Here are a few gun related photos. Ahhhhh on topic.

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This guy is obviously older than my time, so I don't really have all that much to contribute.

I will say, however, that just because one uses guns in movies doesn't mean that (s)he needs to be pro-gun. Applying this logic means that actors like Michael Ironsides (typecasted for villains) needs to support evil IRL. If anything, it's a testament to their professional skill - being able to emulate something which they despise deep down inside. Or maybe its their disdain for whatever it may be that allows them to effectively act, since they internalize whatever it is, and hyperbolize the performance, which makes for better acting? Who knows for certain - I'm not an actor, so I don't know.

That said, given my experiences, I obviously view any anti-gun individual as severely misguided, but the future medical professional/human being in me views all death as tragic, and something worth a moment of silence/reverence, regardless of whether or not we may have agreed with the departed if they were still alive.
 
Not sure why I'm spending the time to comment here... I had to google up Widmark's picture to see who he was. There are so many anti's in the entertainment field that I can't see much point in piling on this guy after he died. Plenty of active, live ones to argue with.
Marty
 
Well, this wouldn't be the first time the liberal press got it wrong or just flat-out displayed blatant yellow journalism.
I'm a big fan of Richard Widmark. The press has taken his misinformed gun control comments out of context. Sure, he supported some gun control measures, but he wasn't the hysterical anti they're painting him to be, in fact he was a gun owner,(rifles, shotguns, handguns) he volunteered for service in WW2, but was denied entry into the Army due to a ruptured eardrum. His brother was severly wounded in the South Pacific w/ a devastating head wound and Mr. Widmark brought himm home and cared for him, putting his career on hold, until his brother's death a couple of years later. It was this traumatic event that stayed w/ him the rest of his life and influenced him to make his misinformed statements on gun control. His comments were largely confined to the dreaded "assault weapons".
While I don't agree w/ his views on gun control, he was a decent man, who, like many of us, was a little beat up and worn down by the curves life throws at us from time to time. He largely stayed away from living in L.A /Hollywood in order to properly raise a family....A man that dedicates himself to his family, like he did, can't be all that bad.
 
HK G3, I think the point the OP is trying to make is that if this guy really thought guns were so bad, then he should not have used them to make himself so much money. If he was only in movies villifying guns, then his positions would have been consistent. In the quote by Widmark, he even admitted his hypocrisy. An actor who makes a living glorifying drugs and then turns around and says drugs are bad is a hypocrite in my opinion. Same to be said with guns.

By the way, while I don't support Winchester's hard tone on this board, I do support his general opinion. And, I don't believe Widmark's family reads this board anyway, so I doubt we're hurting any feelings.

And one more. Do any of you honestly believe the antis won't be jumping for joy when Heston leaves us? That will make me like him even more.
 
Much of this tasteless ground was covered in a thread a couple of days ago. It bothered me then, and it bothers me now. Taking a leak on a man's grave doesn't seem High Road to me.
 
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