(AK) skier shoots moose

[Kodiak AK]

[Johny Carson]I did not know that.[/Johny Carson]

 

[forquidder]

Moose

This time of year moose have a very short fuse. They've been wading though belly deep snow all winter and they become very beligerant and unafraid. They will get on roadways and pathways where the snow is packed and the walking is easier and will refuse to move. A Roman Candle is a good motivator during these times. I actually expect to be charged when around moose during winter's end and avoid them at all cost. And a cow moose coming at you with her ears laid back means business.

 

[4570Rick]

Stomp my head and break my skull once...shame on you.
Try it twice...
































BANG

 

[Moparmike]

"Anchorage is a city, not a wildlife theme park. Citizens should be able to go to the park without fear of bodily injury."

Isnt this the same place with all those molestations and rapes on the bike trails? What planet has she been on?

I see a doggie running loose in park, Im drawing down on it. It comes up to me, Im shootin it.

In someplaces of the country, shooting a man's dog is a Declaration of War. Unless my little 20lb Cheese-mooching Beagle has Rabies, the man who puts a bullet in my dog will be getting several of my bullets in him.

She doesnt run loose, but incase she ever does, I will make damn sure it ain't Alaska.

 

[Wildalaska]

In someplaces of the country, shooting a man's dog is a Declaration of War. Unless my little 20lb Cheese-mooching Beagle has Rabies, the man who puts a bullet in my dog will be getting several of my bullets in him.

Well sorry ya feel that you would need to commit homicide over a dog Mike, so the easy solution is to keep it leashed yes?

Anchorage has doggie parks, where all the doggies can run happy and free. I dont go there. I go to regular parks, where I doggies are supposed to be on leashes.

WildandtheyattractbearstooAlaska

 

[TCD]

WildandtheyattractbearstooAlaska

Well those eagle bait dogs do anyways


I may not shoot a small rat dog running at me, but if it gets near me, it's getting a good boot to the head.





Also, I've heard of small dogs in the local area going to vets to get bb's and pellets removed from em.

 

[Moparmike]

I never said that I woudnt keep her leashed. Heck, she never leaves the yard for the most part. But, one cannot always guarantee that the hold on the leash will not falter. Sometimes, dogs get loose.


Anyway....



Wasnt Kerry supposed to be skiing this weekend? Is it possible to mistake him for a moose?

 

[CB900F]

Mike;

Be very careful, freedom of speech is dead.

900F

 

[Gewehr98]

Mike, if he's not skiing...

Wasn't Kerry supposed to be skiing this weekend? Is it possible to mistake him for a moose?

Perhaps he can make a trip to Anchorage, where Wildalaska would mistake him for an unleashed dog.

 

[spacemanspiff]

normal walking speed for a moose is about what i can jog. when they decide to move faster than walking speed, theres not much one can do.

more often than not a moose just lumbers around lazily.

about the only chance a person has at not having to shoot a moose that charges, is to take cover behind a tree. you may have to circle it a while and play 'keep away'. its not a viable option though unless you are nimble on your feet.

and as far as why vogel only shot twice, he probably was worried he'd have another runin with more moose on his way back.

entropy, exactly what body parts was your dad aiming for? FIVE SHOTS???

 

[Wildalaska]

Also, I've heard of small dogs in the local area going to vets to get bb's and pellets removed from em.

No self respecting Alaskan has an eagle bait dog

Sometimes, dogs get loose.

Thoght I heard that defense in an San Francisco murder trial

Perhaps he can make a trip to Anchorage, where Wildalaska would mistake him for an unleashed dog.

Athough thatsfunny enough to make a pithy response, such a comment that even jokes about shooting presidential cndidates has no place on this Board.


Wild3disparatequotesAlaska

 

[Moparmike]

Thoght I heard that defense in an San Francisco murder trial

Obviously, you missed my point. Find me something that is aboslutely 100% besides your belief that the 2nd is a privledge that requires permits and not a right. **** happens, not all **** happenings require the use of firearms. I thought of all people a gunsmith in Alaska would know that. Guess not.

Somepeople view their dogs as members of the family. I am one of them, and I love my dog like she was my very own child. And for you to shoot a dog happily trotting along with its nose to the ground or howling at squirrels without a care in the world is such an abhorrent act that I cant even begin to comprehend how any rational human being could say it. "ITS A DOG WITHOUT A LEASH!! THE HUNT IS ON! BANG!" Abso-freaking-loutly stupid.



Nowthen, can we please get back on topic?

 

[Wildalaska]

QUOTE]Find me something that is aboslutely 100% besides your belief that the 2nd is a privledge that requires permits and not a right. **** happens, not all **** happenings require the use of firearms. I thought of all people a gunsmith in Alaska would know that. Guess not. [/QUOTE]

Love to respond to your little flame if I had a clue as to the point you are trying to make.:banghead:

And for you to shoot a dog happily trotting along with its nose to the ground or howling at squirrels without a care in the world is such an abhorrent act that I cant even begin to comprehend how any rational human being could say it. "ITS A DOG WITHOUT A LEASH!! THE HUNT IS ON! BANG!" Abso-freaking-loutly stupid.

Guess ya never read my original post did ya?

And by the way, if ya loved your dog so much you wouldnt be lettin it off the leash in an urban area would ya, where not only is cutie little Mopsy a potential danger to others, but in dnager herslef from such things as trucks cars eagles etc.

Enough of this, I feel like I am arguiing on the PETA Board.

WildyourfreedomendswhereitinfringesonmineAlaska:banghead:

 

[Moparmike]

The point I was trying to make is that even though she is on a leash, I cannot guarantee that she will never slip off of that leash, or it will never slip from my hand.

Yes, being off a leash is dangerous. But she isnt infringing on your freedoms by running around while I am chasing her down. Heaven forbid she should sniff your shoe and bum your food. Such an evil creature.

Lord, I love how you keep acusing me of being a liberal. What exactly is your point?

 

[capnrik]

A dog is a fine meal.

No moose left in Texas.

 

[Gewehr98]

Isn't that why...

A dog is a fine meal.

No moose left in Texas.

They came up with the Chihuahua? I notice they get mighty nervous around buffet tables and Taco Bell, especially on the 5th of May.


I can't help it, I've been to Korea too many times.

 

[Cosmoline]

The moose shooting is sad, but OTOH if you're locked onto skis you could be in real trouble. If you can get out of the way it's another matter.

I think the other skier is carrying her brains in her fanny pack There are plenty of two-legged reasons to carry heat on those trails.

 

[Cosmoline]

I see a doggie running loose in park, Im drawing down on it. It comes up to me, Im shootin it.

The one time a bull moose nearly got me, it was after the big guy had been enraged by two off-leash dogs along the Turnagain Arm trail. The dogs high-tailed it and guess who got the moosey fury directed at him?

I wouldn't shoot off-leash dogs just because they're off leash, but I have put a bead on dogs in the act of chasing moose. It's entirely legal to kill them when they do this. Thankfully the one time I did this, the owners quickly leashed the dogs.

For the record, I also reserve the right to shoot tourists who are bothering wildlife I harbor no ill-will toward dogs.

 

[Stand_Watie]

I wouldn't shoot off-leash dogs just because they're off leash, but I have put a bead on dogs in the act of chasing moose. It's entirely legal to kill them when they do this. Thankfully the one time I did this, the owners quickly leashed the dogs

No idea whether it was/is actually legal or not, but have heard the same thing regarding dogs running deer spoken repeatedly by deer hunters. The law here in Texas is that it must be on your (or property you control) property and in the act of depredation, or menacing human welfare as best as I can tell.

I can see both viewpoints as I have dogs that we treat almost like family, yet who escape my property sometimes, yet I have a constant problem with feral, stray and uncontrolled pest dogs. I'd be really upset if one of my dogs were shot, but I wouldn't blame the shooter if they had a valid reason (like it were chasing after their cattle, or threatening them. I'm going to spend the next couple weekends improving my dog fence.

p.s. The reason I have heard commonly given for automatically shooting a dog that's running game is that (and again I don't know specifically the validity of this) a dog can kill a deer just by running it for a few miles and running off it's fat supply and causing it to starve late on in the winter. I imagine this is less of a problem here in Texas than in cold climates.

 

[pax]

Moderator Note

Seems to me that some of the above posts are getting a mite too personal. Can y'all scale it back a bit?

Thanks,

pax

No one can drive us crazy unless we give them the keys. -- Doug Horton

 

[carpettbaggerr]

"It doesn't make me feel that good to have a guy that volatile with a handgun down there," she said. "I mean it's a city park. I'm so upset. ... We don't carry weapons on the trail; we carry our brains."

Until a moose kicks you in the head. Then your brains will fall on the ground. Though it would be hard to tell the difference with this lady.

 

[Ryder]

Been chased by a moose once in Ontario. Stopped on the side of the road to take off my sunglasses as it was getting too dark to see. My biggest worry was running into one since I've read stories of trains being derailed. I saw the moose across the road and up ahead as I got back on the bike. Thought "neato" I am going to get a really good view of that. Plan was to putt past and get an eyeful but as I came equal to it's position I realized it was going to be a closer look than I ever wanted. They move pretty good! Given it's persistence I can only guess it wanted to mate with my bike.

This Alaskan incident happened in the snow. Why on earth would anyone have to guess about what happened? The tale is written in tracks. Absurd that the story was written as a mystery.

 

[Preacherman]

Given it's persistence I can only guess it wanted to mate with my bike.

Now that would have been a dérailleur for your derrière...