Alliant Equivilent?

[bluetopper]

I really like inexpensive American made Alliant powders and try and buy them whenever I can. I was wondering if Alliant makes a powder with appox. the same burn rate as H110/W296 or Lil Gun or 4227? I don't know if 2400 would qualify or not?
I have a 500 S&W Handi Rifle on layaway.

 

[Canuck-IL]

Right ballpark ... 4227, H110 and 2400 are all decent powders for use in 30 carbine.
/Bryan

 

[ArchAngelCD]

Yes, 2400 is in the same burn rate range as W296/H110 and Lil'Gun as well as AA#9 and Ramshot Enforcer. 2400 is the powder Elmer Keith used in his Magnum load development and it's a favorite of many reloaders. I use 2400 as well as W296 and Lil'Gun. All work well and I like 2400 best for lead bullets in the .357 Magnum.

Alliant lists data for 2400 in the 500 Magnum for only a lighter 350gr bullet. If you are going to use a heavier bullet it will be better if you use a powder like VV N110, 4227, W296/H110 or IMO the best choice would be the newer Lil'Gun. Lil'Gun will produce the same high velocity as the others but at lower pressures.

Here is the link to the Hodgdon Burn Rate Chart. You will see on the chart all those powder are right next to each other.

 

[bluetopper]

I have in mind of using a 400gr cast bullet for the 500 S&W and didn't know if 2400 would be suitable or not. If not, anything else by Alliant?

 

[ArchAngelCD]

The Alliant Load Data Site doesn't list a cast bullet and like said above lists only a 350gr Jacketed bullet. The 2 powders they list are 2400 and Power Pistol which is faster than 2400.

If you're going to use a cast bullet you might have to use a different company's powder. I would suggest calling ATK (Alliant) and asking them for the information. They will tell you if they have something appropriate for your application.

Mail Address:
Alliant Powder
PO Box 6
Radford, VA 24143-0006
1-800-276-9337

Email Address:
alliant.reloading[at]atk.com

 

[Doug b]

Alliant has a new line out but I've not found any of it yet or seen any data.300mp looks like it might be of interest to you. http://www.alliantpowder.com/whats_new/latest_products.aspx

 

[Shoney]

For an excellent reference of relative burn rates, where you can see them at a glance, the ADI chart is great:
http://www.adi-limited.com/handloaders-guide/equivalents.asp

When you look at rates expressed in a straight line scale like:
http://www.reloadbench.com/burn.html
It is hard to tell just how close or far apart the relative burn rates are on individual powders that are close or even next to each other on the chart.

 

[Walkalong]

I have all kinds of burn rate charts and check them out all the time, but we must remember that different powders can behave differently depending on the caliber and how mild or hot it is loaded. Any one powder can move up and down the burn rate chart depending on the application. Charts are great, but only as a guideline to pick another powder that may work well for our intended use.

Short answer is I think 2400 should work quite well with heavy cast bullets in the .500, but I am guessing of course.

 

[ants]

Yes, like Walkalong I collect powder burn rate charts. The charts vary, as Walk says, because the powders perform differently in each testing environment (and real world application).

Use the charts only to stimulate some good thinking and to generate some good ideas on what to try next.
Always reference your published data manuals for loads.