Ammo Identification
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PRD1
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What it actually looks like is a military surplus round with the bullet reversed in the case to expose the lead core, in an attempt to make an expanding bullet of it. This is an old method of turning FMJ rounds into 'soft point' types for hunting. If you scratch the exposed end of the round, I think you'll find it's the exposed lead core. Such rounds are not very accurate, but enough so to serve for medium hunting ranges. And they don't usually work very well as an expanding bullet...
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newfalguy101
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Looks to me like a 7.62 x 54r blank
jeeptim
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2md for 7.62x54r
FROGO207
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It is a blank for sure but the case shape and smaller rim look to be a 30 US/30-40 Craig round. Look them up and compare. All the russian blanks I have come in contact with have a starred crimp that is closed on the end and are steel cases with a copper colored wash. That round looks like it is brass and made like the US ammo plants made them 100 years ago. YMMV
The extra long brass is a giveaway for a blank. Without some careful measurements it is hard to tell the caliber. A close up of any head stamp markings would also tell the tale.
Off hand I'd get on the bandwagon for Russian also.
Off hand I'd get on the bandwagon for Russian also.
Archie
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I would like to look at the headstamp. The language and notations tell a lot.
I am curious about the case mouth swell where the bullet is inserted. It appeared to have the bullet reverse, but it looks like the bullet inserted is larger than the neck and mouth of the case is expecting.
Based on the 'tapered' edges of the rim, I would guess a European cartridge. The .30-40 Krag round had 'squared' edges, as did the .303 British. Looking at the tapered case and 'squat' appearance, my first guess would be 8mm Lebel, but there is no annular ring. Could be a 7.62x54Rmm (Russian) round, but looks too short. One notes reversing the bullet was common for those rifles.
I am curious about the case mouth swell where the bullet is inserted. It appeared to have the bullet reverse, but it looks like the bullet inserted is larger than the neck and mouth of the case is expecting.
Based on the 'tapered' edges of the rim, I would guess a European cartridge. The .30-40 Krag round had 'squared' edges, as did the .303 British. Looking at the tapered case and 'squat' appearance, my first guess would be 8mm Lebel, but there is no annular ring. Could be a 7.62x54Rmm (Russian) round, but looks too short. One notes reversing the bullet was common for those rifles.
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