amsec bf 6636

[pjripple]

Thanks for the response a1abdj. I appreciate your expertise and input. I wish you were doing business in Nevada. I've looked but haven't been able find any safe professionals locally.

Also, as much as I like to root for the small guy, there's also something to be said for buying from a company that's been around over 60 years, and is one of the largest in the business. At least you know they are likely to be around a few years down the road when you have a warrranty issue.

It's hard to argue this point. I guess for my needs and budget, all roads seem to lead back to the AMSEC BF.

More steel is rarely a bad thing. The question is, do you need it, or do you need even more?

This has been one of my stumbling points. I don't think I need more. One of my biggest concerns is that I have quite a few tools in my garage that could potentially be used to attack whatever safe I buy (certainly more than a hammer and screwdriver that passes the UL RSC rating test). I know I'll never eliminate these risks, but I don't want to buy a safe that a thief can open in less than 2 minutes with a couple of pry bars like the YouTube video "Security on Sale". I am also planning on installing an alarm system as additional measures.

 

[Guns and more]

This thread is from February. Just buy the darn safe.

I wish one safe thread could go by without the sales pitch.

 

[pjripple]

As to the Summit being made by either Pro-Steel or Heritage, not a chance.

Hey Safeguy....I'm not trying to start an argument, just trying to sort through the available data. Hopefully I did this right and have attached a photo of the tags on the Summit Everest I've been eyeing. It has a Heritage tag. Any thoughts?

 

[a1abdj]

You wouldn't happen to have a photo of that door edge from a bit further out would you? I'm seeing a line running down the door "plate" that shouldn't be there if it's a solid plate. Maybe I'm seeing things.

With that said, they are also falsely defining "B Rate". A B rate safe is any safe with up to a 1/4" body, and a 1/2" or heavier door. So technically, a safe with a body lighter than 1/4" could still be a "B Rate" although those of us in the business consider a true B rate to have the full 1/4" body and 1/2" door.

 

[pjripple]

a1abdj, I don't have a photo from further back right now. I will post one if you are really interested. I bought this safe yesterday. It should be delivered next week. According to the spec sheet, this is a composite door: (2) 1/4" steel plates welded to (1) 3/4" steel plate. Seems like a lot to me. I also called several Summit dealers and was told that Summit safe company does not actually manufacture safes. It was explained to me that they are a coop of dealers that contract with other manufacturers (currently Heritage Safe Co. and Pro-Steel) to build safes according to their specs. It seems like a pretty good safe when compared to others I have seen. Can I actually refer to this as a safe rather than rsc without upsetting the powers that be here on this board? Anyway, I'm am pleased with my purchase...hopefully I never find out how good (or bad) a safe it really is.

 

[a1abdj]

Regardless, that's more steel than your average gun safe. I have an imported unit that's built in a similar fashion. It has three plates that make up the total of 1/2" plate in the door, and two that make up the 1/4" body, cement fill between it all. Compared to a 12 gauge, or even 10 gauge safe with gypsum or other "soft" lining, this type of construction is quite stout.

No need for the photo, since your description explains what I'm seeing already. If you don't mind though, a review of the safe once it arrives would be nice. I've never seen one before, so anything you have to share may be helpful in the future.

 

[pjripple]

I'll be sure to post a review and some pics after it gets delivered.

 

[cisco11]

Safe

What a soap opera! I wouldn't buy a safe from either of you girls.
I buy used TL 30 jewelry safes. Or portable bank vaults, last one weighed 6,000 + lbs.
Cisco

 

[a1abdj]

I wouldn't buy a safe from either of you girls.

Which girls are you referring to?

I buy used TL 30 jewelry safes. Or portable bank vaults, last one weighed 6,000 + lbs.

When you decide to step up to some real security, let me know.

The door behind me in the photo weighs 23 tons. Just the door.....46,000 pounds. I'm the only one that I know of on any of the forums that deals with this type of stuff, and there's only a small handfull of us nationwide that do. I have a similar door available for $220,000 (not counting shipping or installation). I'll hold it for you with a 50% deposit if you're interested.

 

[cisco11]

Safe

A,
How much sheetrock in the door, and is it double layer on hat channel?
Cisco

 

[a1abdj]

One of the gun safe manufacturers lent me their Safe Fairy (I don't remember if that's a registered trademark or not) that sprinkles the magic dust on their safes. This dust is what makes 1/10" steel impenetrable, and dry wall fireproof.

The fairy dumped too much dust on this door, making it fireproof without the need for any gyspum board at all.

 

[cisco11]

fauries

You asked WHAT girls?
I knew there was fairies involved.
Cisco

 

[hackeriii]

After reading a lot of posts and recomendations from this site, I'm considering a BF6030 or BF6636 gun safe. Have contacted many authorized sellers in my neck of the world (Northern Virginia) and getting sticker shock. Seems MSRP+ is the only quote they know. Their talking $3800 for the BF6030 to $4700 for the BF6636, and thats the base price without any upgrades like the door organizer, light kit, gloss paint or even delivery and install. Have any other NoVa folks purchased one of these two safes and how much did you pay, and whom do you recommend? What would be a fair price for one of these? The Mrs. is keeping an eye on this procurement.

 

[a1abdj]

If you can't find a decent price locally (paying MSRP is not anywhere near decent), I would be happy to quote you a price shipped. You can send me a PM with your zip code with a list of how you would want the safe set up.

 

[heeler]

Hacker,I did not pay anywhere near that price for my BF 66X36 last October.
Not even close!
Those guys quoting you those prices truely need to go back to business school.
It's stunning to believe in this economy there are people out their stupid enough to drive a sell off by quoting MSRP on anything.
What an insult.

 

[a1abdj]

Those guys quoting you those prices truely need to go back to business school.
It's stunning to believe in this economy there are people out their stupid enough to drive a sell off by quoting MSRP on anything.
What an insult.

This is pretty common with small locksmiths that just happen to sell safes (as well as a number of other types of retailers). They are not equipped to handle this kind of weight and quote full MSRP. They figure that will either discourage the sale so they don't have to mess with it, or really make it worth their while to deal with the inconvenience.