Another gunman on campus: Cal State Dominguez Hills...

[CountGlockula]

http://ktla.trb.com/news/ktla-dominguezhills,0,6112055.story+

Cal State Dominguez Hills Reopens After Report of Gunman
February 21, 2008, 9:32 AM PST

Deputies were called to the campus of Cal State Dominguez Hills in Carson to investigate a report of a possible gunman.

A witness claimed to see a man walking around campus with an automatic weapon and canisters around his waste.

A suspect was detained who turned out to be an ROTC student with a drill rifle. The campus was put under lockdown which has since been lifted. Classes have been cancelled for the day.

Can you say: overreaction?

 

[Rokyudai]

 

[buzz_knox]

A witness claimed to see a man walking around campus with an automatic weapon and canisters around his waste.

Please tell me that this wasn't in the original article. If so (and unless he didn't clean himself and had major 'roids) I am further disgusted with the extent to which professional journalism has declined.

 

[627PCFan]

I'm just impressed at least this time what the guy had resembled a gun........

 

[fletcher]

Absolutely ridiculous.

 

[Navy_Guns]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331688,00.html

CARSON, Calif. — Authorities are searching the campus of California State University, Dominguez Hills after someone reported seeing a person carrying an assault rifle.

Sheriff's deputies are assisting campus police and have shut down the sprawling university grounds 20 miles south of downtown Los Angeles.

The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says it's not clear if the person is a man or woman. No injuries have been reported.

Great - they can't tell if it was a man or a woman, but boy are they able to tell for sure that it is an ASSAULT RIFLE... Now THERE is a witness I'd put on the stand!

 

[NG VI]

incredible, again kudos to them at least being called for something similiar to a gun. and it's interesting they immediately called it an "assault rifle", whatever that is, because all the drill teams and honors teams I've ever seen were using either M-1 Garands or M-14s, which certainly DO NOT fit the description of an assault rifle. they don't even look like ebrs unless they've been tacti-cooled.

 

[keeleon]

Was just listening to this on KFI640. They found him. He was a "black male, with a green jacket and green shorts carrying a drill rfile" (BDUS? shorts in this weather??). They had been saying it was described ass an AK-47 assault rifle. Wow, isn't that a surprise since that is the only long gun name any "sheeple" has ever heard. I awlays laugh when someone "has an AK". Of course it was deeply ironic, that that is what that mall shooter used not too long ago. I guess a broken clock is right sometimes.

I t was funny to hear the silly girls being interviewed on the radio. Paraphrased:

"We were so scared, we locked the doors and started to strategize. If he came through te door, we would all pepper spray him."

"We would like, attack him and then escape."

Of course, this is a terrible example for getting CCW on campus. Imagine someone with a CCW hearing that there is a gunman on campus and not knowign the details. He sees the guy, and knowing that to stop any further violence (not knowing there hadn't been any already), he has to take a killing shot before the guy sees him. Uggh.

Of course if guns weren't so taboo, then noone would be freaking out because they have no idea what a drill rifle is (the kind covered in white tape?). The guy probably could have been a little more responsible in transporting it though. I know that it might be legal to walk around wit ha paintball gun, but you try pointing one at a cop or an armed citezen that doesn't know exactly what's going on.

 

[RNB65]

Heaven help them if an entire drill teams walks across campus. There will be mass panic and pandemonium in the streets!
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[PershingRiflesC-7]

RNB65 wrote:

Heaven help them if an entire drill teams walks across campus.

Flashback to my ROTC days in the 70s where our drill team practice area was either the lawn or parking lot of the ROTC building which was right across the parking lot from the campus police HQ/station. The campus cops drove by all the time with just a wave and a nod, certainly never giving us a second thought. God, am I getting old or what?? (Fifty-three on 2/26, FWIW)

NG VI wrote:

using either M-1 Garands or M-14s

Back in the day, depending on the type of drill being practiced, our choices were either the M-14 (fully functional) or the 1903A3 (demilled). AFAIK, the M-14 is no longer available and color guards are using the 03A3.

 

[Navy_Guns]

"Um, hello Police? It's just after 2 am and I see several disheveled people shuffling towards the dorms - some of them have a disoriented look and dark circles under their eyes... I think it is a ZOMBIE INVASION!!!"

"No, ma'am - the bars just closed and I think they may be tipsy."

"Too late! We just like pepper sprayed them all and totally escaped!!!"

 

[KBintheSLC]

Sad thing is that if he were a real shooter, many people would have been dead by the time the cops got there. Another casualty of California's unjust gun laws. I'm glad it was a false alarm.

 

[keeleon]

Sad thing is that if he were a real shooter, many people would have been dead by the time the cops got there. Another casualty of California's unjust gun laws.

I have to agree with you, but unfortunately, this is a very bad case to talk about easier CCW with. As I said earlier, it could have turned out horrible if someone with a CCW got edgy. And I am certain that not %100 of people would ask the guy to stop and drop the gun before shooting first. With school mass shootings in the news so often, it's easy to get paranoid.

Of course the flip side is, if CCW ere commonplace on campus, then nobody would really think that a guy was just walking around wit ha rifle with the intent to harm anyone.

 

[Bill2e]

THe response should be::::::SO What. Is he doing anythin Illegal.

 

[keeleon]

Well, we're talking making CCW legal not open carry. And also, there probably ISN'T a good reason to be carrying a rifle or shotgun around on campus that isn't in a bag. And if it is in a bag, then no one needs to know. So, yes, if he had a real gun, then he would be doing something illegal.

Just like if you saw someone that you did not recognize climbing in through your neighbors window, you might get suspicious. Of course it was just their son who was home from college that you have never met who locked himself out on accident, but as far as you know he is doing something illegal.

 

[thekomet]

One of the best features of the posts on THR is that we recognize the grave responsibility of CCW. Antis rarely try to look at the downside of their position in my experience, but you will often read posts here chastising others for being too quick to pull the trigger. This is a great example that one needs to identify one's target before one pulls the trigger; it should be a comfort to others who don't carry that we are actively thinking when carrying. This makes us SAFER people to be around.

 

[TexasRifleman]

As I said earlier, it could have turned out horrible if someone with a CCW got edgy.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that someone that would bother to get a CCW and carry on campus is not likely to be dumb enough to confuse an ROTC cadet with a piece of wood that looks like a rifle with a nutcase about to shoot up the school.


ETA: Well the news report below this post clearly changes everything.

 

[CountGlockula]

The latest from the school's website....

http://www.csudh.edu/univadv/Newsroom/2007/DH08_ABS12.htm

February 21, 2008

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


California State University, Dominguez Hills Back Open
After Report of Gunman on Campus

(Carson, CA) —California State University, Dominguez Hills was on lockdown early Thursday morning, Feb. 21, after reports of an armed suspect on campus were called in to University Police. Within an hour, police determined the threat was a false alarm.

At 8:26 a.m. University Police received a call of a male in a dark sweatshirt carrying an assault rifle. University Police officers on scene responded immediately and Los Angeles County Sheriff Carson Station was called in for backup with ground and air support.

Campus was closed, classes canceled, and attempts were made to notify staff, faculty and students via e-mail and on the university web site and through verbal notifications advising those already on campus to remain in their rooms with the doors locked until further notice. Those not on campus were told to stay home.

At 9:03 a.m., a student ROTC cadet and his adviser arrived at the incident command post set up just off campus and told officers there that he had been walking through campus with his training rifle while not in uniform and believed he was the person witnesses reported seeing. A witness was able to positively identified the cadet. Police then determined everything was safe and clear. The ROTC cadet was detained for questioning and fully cooperated with police. He has since been released.

ROTC’s policy is to require students to keep training rifles in a duffle bag while in transit. That policy was not adhered to in this case and officials will be reviewing ways to ensure that it is followed in the future.

University officials announced shortly afterward that campus was reopening and classes could resume as scheduled.

“ All threats are taken seriously and dealt with in the appropriate manner,” said Chief Susan Sloan. “Thankfully, this threat was determined to be a false alarm. As a result of this incident we can take a close look at our response and ways to improve it.”

 

[keeleon]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that someone that would bother to get a CCW and carry on campus is not likely to be dumb enough to confuse an ROTC cadet with a piece of wood that looks like a rifle with a nutcase about to shoot up the school.

You are right of course. But that doesn't change the fact that the antis still think that as soon as CCWs are legal, EVERYONE will carry a gun. And alos what if it were an airsoft gun? Not smart, not legal, but not really deserving of 2 center mass one in the head. Could you tell the difference?

 

[dvcrsn]

I got my BS in biology from there years ago--campus security was at least decent, but ROTC is fairly new. I am just glad no one got stupid

 

[Moonclip]

Doesn't surprise me a bit. I vaguely know someone who is in this school and is in the country illegally. I consider an illegal more damaging than a guy in shorts with an inert rifle. CCW is almost impossible to obtain in LA county where this college is (it's basically in Compton IIRC) and even if you have one, I think it's illegal to carry on the campus.