Ant info about Elliot Remington Derringers

[dirtsmij]

I have an Elliot Remington 41 Caliber two barrel derringer that has been in the family for a long time.
Inscribed on the left side of the barrel is “E Remington & Sons ILIGN N.Y."
On the barrels right side is “Elliots Patent Dec 12 1884"
Inscribed on the bottom rear of the barrel is "60%"
Stamped on the right side of the frame under the walnut grip is “209”
The original finish is slightly worn and the barrel has some pitting. It appears to be in good shape and in good working order. It does not have the bullet extractor on the left side of the barrel that I see on other examples of this weapon. (Any way I think it is a bullet extractor.)

I would like to know more about it. High quality jpeg pictures are available.

 

[Jim K]

The Remington Double Derringer is one of the most famous pistols in American history; it was made from 1866 to 1935, one of the longest production runs ever for any firearm, and has inspired a zillion copies. While it was designed by Elliot, the term "Remington-Elliot Derringer" usually is applied to one of the other models of short barrel pistol designed by Elliot and produced by Remington. The one you have is just called the "Remington Double Derringer." None, of course, were marked "Derringer" or "Derringer", nor was that name used by Remington.

The earliest ones were made without the extractor and fired cartridges have to be pried out with the fingernail or some tool.

Serial numbers on those guns appear to be for a series, not for the whole production period, but in the case of yours, it would certainly seem to be a very early gun and the number does indicate the 209th one made. Walnut is not a common grip material; most used gutta percha (hard rubber) grips.

Inspect the hinge very carefully. If it is intact, and the gun is as described, value could range above $2000. If the hinge is cracked (and many are) the value is cut about in half.

I strongly recommend against firing it and caution to be very careful in opening the gun; hinges usually crack not from firing but from the gun being "flipped" open, straining the weak hinge from the momentum of the barrels.

Jim

Jim