Any Springfield XD owners and grip safety

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I've got two XDM's with several thousand rounds through each of them, never a single issue.

The people who complain about the grip safety are simply looking for something to complain about (what if scenario lovers) or they've never actually held an XD/XDM and THINK it is an issue.


The grip safety is very light and easy to deactivate. If you've got a normal grip on the gun it is a non issue.
 
Noproblems

My XD Sub Compact has never had any problems with the grip safety. In fact, I think that the well shaped grip makes it very difficult for that to occur.

The XD series are excellent guns and I recommend them highly.

Jim
 
Of the 45 posts, 42 report this being a non-issue, we have 2 reported issues and one that involves getting shot through both hands, which I daresay means no gun would be easy to manipulate. Can we call this one done without me or someone else needing to close this?
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45 posts is statistically insignificant. Of course you will never have an issue as long as the grip safety is depressed. The problem happens when you are unable to depress the grip safety. Shooting at the range is not the same as being in a life or death street fight.

In the real world you may find yourself with no other choice but to fire from some very unorthodox positions you will never practice at a range because they would be too dangerous. How are you going to use your gun with your face in the dirt with an attacker on your back beating you in the head. You don't practice for that at the range.

Quite a few guns are deployed when the victim is on the ground with an attacker on top pinning them to the ground. You may already be wounded with a gun covered in blood, mud, or sweat and with broken fingers. You could be moments from passing out and need to fire the gun with some other finger with no possibility of a "proper" grip.

1911's have failed to fire under the same type of situations because the gun owners could not operate the grip safety. There is a reason 1911 grip safeties were often taped down or disabled by lawmen years ago. The XD safety is even more likely to fail because of its design, but it has not been around long enough for many, if any documented cases. It is also almost never used by professionals who are likely to be in this situation.

Yea, I know I just described an extreme situation that may never happen to you. But this type of scenario is more likely to happen than any accidental discharge being prevented by a grip safety. I still say grip safety's are more likely to prevent the gun from firing when you need it to fire, than when you don't want it to fire.

The idea of grip safeties have been around for a while. It was stuck on the 1911 because of governmental bureaucracy, not because John Browning felt it was needed. It is on the XD to sell guns to people afraid of Glocks. Over the last 100+ years no other major gun maker has felt it was needed.
 
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45 posts is statistically insignificant. Of course you will never have an issue as long as the grip safety is depressed. The problem happens when you are unable to depress the grip safety. Shooting at the range is not the same as being in a life or death street fight.

In the real world you may find yourself with no other choice but to fire from some very unorthodox positions you will never practice at a range because they would be too dangerous. How are you going to use your gun with your face in the dirt with an attacker on your back beating you in the head. You don't practice for that at the range.

Quite a few guns are deployed when the victim is on the ground with an attacker on top pinning them to the ground. You may already be wounded with a gun covered in blood, mud, or sweat and with broken fingers. You could be moments from passing out and need to fire the gun with some other finger with no possibility of a "proper" grip.

1911's have failed to fire under the same type of situations because the gun owners could not operate the grip safety. There is a reason 1911 grip safeties were often taped down or disabled by lawmen years ago. The XD safety is even more likely to fail because of its design, but it has not been around long enough for many, if any documented cases. It is also almost never used by professionals who are likely to be in this situation.

Yea, I know I just described an extreme situation that may never happen to you. But this type of scenario is more likely to happen than any accidental discharge being prevented by a grip safety. I still say grip safety's are more likely to prevent the gun from firing when you need it to fire, than when you don't want it to fire.

The idea of grip safeties have been around for a while. It was stuck on the 1911 because of governmental bureaucracy, not because John Browning felt it was needed. It is on the XD to sell guns to people afraid of Glocks. Over the last 100+ years no other major gun maker has felt it was needed.
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This is one of the "what if" scenarios I posted about. There are lots of situations that can easily be conjured up when talking about "what if".

What if the firing pin breaks when you try to fire? What if a trigger spring fails and leaves the gun useless? What if you got an overloaded box of ammo and your gun explodes on the first shot? What if you're fighting in a sandstorm and you're out of ammo and your gun is polymer so it isn't as good for pistol whipping people?

To say "what if you're shot through both hands and you can't use the grip safety" is ridiculous. It is highly unlikely that you'll ever be in that exact situation. It is highly unlikely that you'll ever actually deploy your gun.

It is highly unlikely that if you're bleeding, covered in sweat, and shot through both hands, that the grip safety is going to be your biggest problem.
 
No issues here. Guns have lots of moving parts that can fail, grip safety or otherwise. I actually like the grip safety as an extra precaution when holstering.
 
KTXdm9 said:
No issues here. Guns have lots of moving parts that can fail, grip safety or otherwise. I actually like the grip safety as an extra precaution when holstering.
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i am the same way. it's personal preference really, and lots of folks say they don't need the extra safety margin. i prefer it though and have nothing but good thigns to say about my XD collection.
 
I have the 4.5" & 5.25" versions in 9mm. The 4.5" has at least 2,000 rnds through it and I broke 1,000 rnds in the 5.25" version around Christmas.
I've never had any issues with either gun. Several new shooters have learned to shoot with my XDMs and no one has had a problem with the grip safeties.

There's only one thing that I feel is worth mentioning. I have a lot of guns (probably not to some of you guys) and I have to slightly rotate the pistol in my hand in order to reach the slide lock with most of them. This is especially true with M1911's.
The ergonomics are really good with the Springfield. I don't have to rotate the XDM at all in order to reach the slide lock but find myself doing it out of habit if I've been shooting M1911's that day. The problem is that when I shift my grip on the gun, I'm not pressing the grip safety enough to depress it. That means that I cannot rack the slide as it doesn't move if the grip safety isn't depressed.
This is a training issue not a problem with the handgun or the grip safety. I only find myself doing this after a long period of M1911 shooting.
 
I've owned four; XD9sc, XD40sc, XD45c, and an XDM40c. I've tried to induce every type of failure I could. No luck.

To try to fire it with your hand too low on the grip is simply not realistic in any sense.
 
No problems shooting mine with either hand and neither of my sons have had trouble with it either.

Ya know, even with both hands injured I think I could find a way to shoot a XD or 1911 if I had to. Even if I had to depress the safety with the thumb of one hand while working the trigger with my other hand.
 
no experience with the xd, but love the 1911 grip safety, no problems... if it dont work, your doing it wrong.
 
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