Anybody have finish problems with a Smith 442? 642 problem here.

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Hello, all. I just joined the 642 Club Saturday upon the purchase of a new 642-2. I've read all the complaints regarding the clearcoat finish, and how it does not play well with some cleaning agents. While I think that a finish should be tough enough to stand up to a shot of GunScrubber, that horse has been well and truly beaten, and S&W has evidently decided that they're sticking with what they've got. So, I just decided I'd stick with my trusty MPro7 and go on my merry way, happy with my new pocket piece.

Then, tragedy struck. Whilst conversing with my wife, I bumped my new wheelgun against the wooden door frame I was walking through. Thanks for the distraction, dear. ;) Painted pine is soft, and I didn't really expect to even find much of a scuff mark on the gun, but if there was, I was OK with it. All of my guns have some scuffs, scratches, and finish wear, and that's all just character, IMO. To my great shock, however, I found a semi-circular chip of the finish knocked clean off to the bare metal, just aft the barrel on the right side of the frame. Where the chip is missing, I can continue to remove finish material with no more effort than scratching with my fingernail. That's a Bad Thing.

I called Smith & Wesson yesterday, and, to their great credit, they're sending me a prepaid shipping label to have the gun refinished. That's excellent service, IMO, given that most companies would at least expect one to cover shipping to their facility. Still, I'm concerned that, with the same finish going back on the gun, I'm going to wind up with something that must be babied to keep it from chipping, etc. Note: I know, I know, it'll probably fire just fine. But if I wanted a more cheaply-made pistol, I would've bought a Taurus or a Charter. Smith & Wesson quality, and all that!

So my question is this: have those of you who have a 442, the carbon-steel counterpart to the 642, had any similar finish issues? I really like this little gun, and want to keep it, so I'm considering asking the shop to refinish the frame like a 442 if that finish is more durable, or just leave the clear coat off, maybe. If they won't go for that, I guess I'm looking at sending it off for a coated finish like Cobra Coat, but I hate to spend money to replace a finish that should be adequate from the factory. Frankly, I don't care whether or not my 642 winds up two different colors. It's two tones of silver now, anyway, so I don't really understand why they changed from the no-dash 642 finish to begin with.

442 owners, your comments please! And other opinions and suggestions welcome, too. Thanks! :D
 
I bought one a month ago and shot several hundred rounds through it but I only clean it with Remington oil. No "peeling" yet. Steve 48
 
I have the 442 and the 432 both have the black finish. No problems at all with both guns. I like the black finish much better than the chrome or brushed stainless finish. I have had no problems with gun scrubbber on either of the guns. It takes the finish off the stainless colored guns. Maybe that's why the 442 model was higher priced at one time.
 
Have had a 442 in daily use since purchase in 1996; to date it has about 700 rounds through it. As far as I can tell the finish is just a matte blue. It shows wear on all high spots now with a few dings for character. In other words, it now looks exactly like what it is, a working gun. It gets cleaned with Ed's Red bore cleaner which is a brew of kerosene, automatic transmission fluid, and MEK.

Having worn a gun daily since 1972, I have a pretty fair idea of what to expect in the way of finish wear. I would say that this one is doing just fine.

As a traditionalist I am not very current on all the newer finishes out there.
 
I am very closely acquainted with a 342 (clear coat finish) that is carried 7x18x365 and has been since 1999. It is showing the kind of wear the previous post mentions but all things considered it is doing very well. And, it ain't like the aluminum is going to rust... ;)
 
i have a 442 with the stanless? nickel? finish it is coming off in places, will s&w fix this? its agood little gun but its starting to look ruff,*csa*:cuss:
 
I have a 317 that "HAD" the clearcoat finish.

It started peeling and looks "well worn"

Not happy about it, but WTH.
 
I've had a 442 for a few years and haven't had any problems of any sort. It was like new with no box when I bought it and it's one of my favorite guns.

JT
 
I have a 442 which has no finish problems on the frame area. The cylinder, however, is I believe steel and regular bluing, so it has developed a few specks of rust when it came in contact with sweat. If one always kept the gun in a holster, I bet the cylinder would never show signs of rusting and would just wear like a regular blue gun.
 
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