Anyone finds it easier to conceal a full size pistol on the weak side grip forward ?

[Wanderling]

Don't think that's called a cross draw, that would be on the strong side.

Anyway, I finally found a holster that works comfortably for G17 and can be easily taken off - Fobus Paddle - but I find it much harder to conceal with butt of the gun facing rear. With gun on my weak side and the butt facing forward, the handle sort of follows the shape of my body and is much easier to hide without drawing attention. To pull it out I do have to reach across my gut though, which may be a problem in some theoretical situations (although since G26 works so well for me I am unlikely to carry G17 much).

 

[allaroundhunter]

That is called cross draw (crossing your body to draw). And I don't find it any easier to conceal. But I do find it slower to present on target.

Try just pushing the holster more towards the front of your body on the strong side.

 

[bainter1212]

You need a holster with some serious cant....like 15 to 20 degrees at least. That will go a long way towards concealing that grip.

 

[JTQ]

Fobus Paddle - but I find it much harder to conceal with butt of the gun facing rear.

As mentioned above, more cant would help, but the real issue is there is no trailing loop to pull the grip to the body.

See post #9 in this thread.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=764164

One characteristic of most good concealment holsters is a trailing loop, as found on your Glock sport holster. It is especially important for guns with a large, thick grip like the G17.

and yet you went ahead and…

I did what I probably should've done from the start and asked a guy at a LGS, he let me try a couple of holsters, and I ended up walking out with a Fobus paddle holster

We want to help, but if you won't take advice you've got to look in the mirror to figure out why it isn't working for you.

 

[rcmodel]

Don't think that's called a cross draw, that would be on the strong side.

No that would clearly be a cross-draw.

You cannot have a strong-side cross-draw holster.

Doing as you suggest works.
But be aware, you are presenting the gun butt forward to a right handed adversary.

Who once close enough, can snatch the gun out of your holster and shoot you with it before you know what happened.

Also be aware it is impossible to draw the gun without sweeping your left arm and everything else on your left with a loaded gun.

rc

 

[somerled]

I used to carry large-frame revolvers in a cross-draw holsters. It does make it easier to carry a six-inch barreled revolver when you're forced to get in and out of vehicles. Some ranges frown on cross-draw holsters because of the potential for sweeping the muzzle other than downrange.

Finding a good strong-side holster can be a challenge. It's easy to get a box full of holsters that didn't pan out. I've had good luck with the Blade-Tech Revolution and the adjustable ASR belt attachment. It's affordable--not much more than a Fobus holster. Blade-Tech makes some paddle attachments, but I've not tried them.

http://www.blade-tech.com/

Even with a paddle holster, a good belt makes a world of different in comfort and concealment. There are gun belts and there are pants belts.

 

[Mainsail]

It's also easier to conceal when the law doesn't require it and you pretty much don't care.

 

[Wanderling]

As mentioned above, more cant would help, but the real issue is there is no trailing loop to pull the grip to the body.

See post #9 in this thread.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=764164



and yet you went ahead and…

We want to help, but if you won't take advice you've got to look in the mirror to figure out why it isn't working for you.

I already have the holster with a trailing loop - Glock Sport / Tactical.

I needed one that could be easily taken off for work / school etc.

In Glock Holster, the consealment on the strong side is, at the very best, the same as Fobus on the weak side in cross draw, but very uncomfortable for car.

Fobus can be easily canted, btw.

 

[X-Rap]

You must have the Roto model if it's adjustable.
I don't think you'll find many paddle holsters that hug the body. You might try Blackhawk, the one I have is adjustable to three positions and has a different style retention.
I've got both brands and use them at times for the same reason you state.
I don't get to worked up about a gun grab using cross draw, IMO it's easier to defend than a grab from behind while carrying past 3:00.

 

[psyopspec]

FYI on the Fobus paddles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDeKtgkZKmQ

 

[JTQ]

I needed one that could be easily taken off for work / school etc.

Aholster http://shop.aholster.com/product.sc...E3BF7.m1plqscsfapp03?productId=3&categoryId=1

Garrett Industries http://www.giholsters.com/stx-leather-belt-loop-mount/

 

[X-Rap]

There are plenty of videos showing how easy the Fobus is to tear apart but I question how much has been done with regards to drilling the rivets or otherwise weakening the holster to prove the point.
Of those that I own I can't see that happening without a great deal more effort.
The Blackhawk has a more positive hook to the bottom of the beltline and requires a good deal more effort to remove but I've yet to pull the holster from my pants during a draw.

 

[psyopspec]

I question how much has been done with regards to drilling the rivets or otherwise weakening the holster to prove the point.

That's a good point, but the reason I maintain my wariness toward the brand for social work is that there was no collective outcry to the contrary. I remember a case where when the SERPA premiered where there was an accusation of the retention not being strong enough (folks have said, and continue to say, many other things about those holsters as well). But with the accusation of weak retention, there was an overwhelming response of people trying it and reporting back that they could lift the shooter up by the butt of the gun. No such rush to defense when this happened.

Any Fobus gear I have is tucked away in storage out of state, but next time I get my hands on one I would be willing to see if the rivets and injection molded plastic could hold up to basic retention drills like the one in the video. That's probably months away at soonest, however.