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Arizona STOP bill, HB 2161, Red Flag

Discussion in 'Activism' started by armoredman, Jan 16, 2019.

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  1. armoredman

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    Arizonans, the House Bill is 2161, for the unconstitutional, (IMHO), "Red Flag" or what I call Red Dawn law, for what they could bring.
    This one allows a current or former "dating partner" to file - ever have a really, really bad date, realize you are on the town with a verified psycho? Hope they forgot your name and address! Also states, TWICE, that buying a firearm, ammunition or other deadly weapon can be a trigger for a STOP order...buy a new gun, wife hates you buying guns, calls it in, "Ha, well now you have NO guns and I'm taking the kids to Mother's house!" Just yesterday I was at a gunshop where a man and his kids were perusing the counters and one kid plopped down in a chair, "I hate guns, guns are bad." Wait until he turns 18, "My dad really should never have guns, he beat me as a child, and I want him red flagged for a year."
    Of course, I could have my tin foil hat on too tight. I really wish that was true.
    The call here is to go to azleg.gov, if you live in Arizona, and start hammering your elected officials now. If you are a registered AZ voter, get on the phones. If you are in Az and haven't joined AZCDL, now we be a VERY good time!
    I don't have any info about any marches, protests, or other mass actions against this yet.
     
  2. old lady new shooter

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    Thanks for the heads up, I had not heard about this. Also, being new to AZ, had not previously heard of AZCDL, found their website, so thanks twice. :)
     
  3. armoredman

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    You are welcome, and welcome to Arizona!
     
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    :)
     
  5. bikemutt

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    We've had this in WA for at least a year now, the "extreme risk" protection order sort of thing.

    I believe OR now has it and most certainly CA is where it started.

    Gonna need more than Roundup to kill this weed.
     
  6. 6.8KT

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    Your tinfoil hat can never be too tight.
    Many things today, now readily accepted as true in forums like this one, were mocked and called "tin foil" by gullible chumps and simps who thought they knew it all -- just 10 or 15 years ago.
    And yet even the half of it still isn't understood by 99.9% of people.
    People don't realize how deep this all goes, how coordinated it is, how nefarious it is, the lengths of depravity to which they will go to achieve raw power.
    The average person, whether left or right, has no real conception of the who, why, what, when, how -- the machinations of power behind the scenes.

    The people introducing the bill are probably just as clueless. Their motivation to do this is their ambition (the promises of more and bigger donors, or higher standing in The Party), pandering to the faux-virtue-signaling crowd -- or at best, a very misguided sense of do-goodism ('cause they're just as mind-controlled as everyone else).

    Most people in government are just as inept at seeing the big picture, and have no real clue what's going on. They're told one thing, but they end up serving something else. In fact, not being particularly adept at deeper understanding is a good way to get promoted at the lower and mid-levels of the power structure.
     
  7. Drail

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    This is the doing of the David Hogg clan......... Let's pass laws dreamed up by really really dumb kids who believe they have "rights" but no understanding of the Constitution. They've never even tried to read it. What a great idea. The politicians have absolutely NO IDEA how to solve "the gun problem" so now they turn to children for ideas. How pathetic is that? "Democracy is the political theory that the people KNOW what they want - and they deserve to get it good and hard." H.L. Mencken And now we are "getting it good and hard"......
     
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  8. hso

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    I can't find the actual bill in a search so this is closed until someone starts a thread with a link to the actual bill so we don't have folks contacting their legislators and citing the incorrect bill.

    Also, look at the sample letters opposing or supporting legislation for what to send to your elected officials AND be sure to demand your local, not just state, officials (Mayor and Sheriff) oppose this legislation. It puts LEOs in the position of having to face off with law abiding gun owners who have done nothing actionable just because someone claims they might be at risk. Bad for everyone.
     
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