Arizonans! Make your voice heard!

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To bad I missed that today, as I stopped listening to them and am now glad that I did.

Also to bad for them that she will sign it. :D
 
just left a message requesting that she sign SB1108

Arizonans, call Gov. Brewer and ask her to sign the bill!

Email is too slow and passive, give her a ring:

Telephone (602) 542-4331
Toll Free 1-(800) 253-0883
Fax (602) 542-1381
 
she said she supported it from what i heard, and supposedly requested certain changes from the original draft to assure her signature.

To NOT sign it would be pretty wishy-washy IMO
 
i personally think she'd do more political damage to herself by not signing it.... those who are against it are going to vote against her regardless. Those who support her based significantly on this issue (which as we know in AZ is a big deal), i might call future dedication into question.

hypothesizing, speculating and whatnot of course
 
Any idea when is takes effect?

On a side note this topic has been talked about for a month at my shop. Lots of interesting thoughts from my fellow employees. Most are in favor.
 
WHOHOO! AZ is the third state in the Union to trust her citizens! Law goes into effect 90 days after the Legislature adjourns sin die, which typically means it will take effect in September, usually.
 
i just thought of something......

... will more businesses put up "no firearms" signs now with the passage of this law ?

I hope not... i'm sure a few will though

thoughts ?
 
will more businesses put up "no firearms" signs now with the passage of this law ?

I wouldnt think so, its more out of sight out of mind now. If they didnt mind OC before why would they care about CC
 
she might lose some votes over it but the ends were achieved.

She won't be re-elected, period. She has no chance, end of her career.

I LOVE her on guns, but as a Gov. economically she has been a real disaster. Economically, she has no long term plan, and she has alienated herself from her own party through the budget nightmare.

She did the right thing, I think knowing she won't be around much longer, and she decided to sign what is right for the AZ.
 
economically she has been a real disaster. Economically, she has no long term plan, and she has alienated herself from her own party through the budget nightmare.

You see the same thing in many states, and to be quite honest it is not the fault of the most recent politicians most of the time. The nation has been in a recession, and many governments had created a budget that just barely balanced itself with the tax dollars coming in during the economic boom.
What this means is that they don't have enough revenue to support the excessive fat government propped up during an economic boom.
They either have to make drastic cuts, which pisses off all the unions representing government jobs since government jobs are the prime expense of state governments, or they have to raise taxes.
So jobs cut, and services reduced or taxes raised.
It really is as simple as that, and either one is going to piss off large mobilized groups of voters.

For example the OP works in corrections. Corrections is represented by large unions most places. Unions most often aligned with Democrats and their candidates.
Strong budget cuts will likely reduce the number of corrections employees, and he could find himself out of a job if they balance the budget. As a result the Unions will use scare tactics and remind everyone of all the dangerous criminals that might have to be released if there is any fewer guards (even if it is mainly non-violent offenders that would be released). Along with other tactics that will make the person making the decision look bad.
Police, fire, nurses, school teachers, they all do the same thing and use similar scare tactics, and belong to powerful unions that are effective at getting the point across.
While raising taxes is going to upset everyone, but especially a lot of the conservative base, often the base that is more inclined to support gun rights and that she represents. Also when taxes are raised for a shortfall in bad times, they almost never are reduced later. The new revenue from good times is just used to prop up some new government programs or employees, leading to the exact same problem some years in the future, while everyone will still be paying more taxes.
Either is going to be a political loss and give the talking heads something to cite to make the politician in charge look like something the people did not want to elect to office and do not want around in the future.



What it means is most who have been unfortunate enough to be a politician in charge of a state budget in the last year or two are going to receive a bad review which will hurt their career.
The leader is also a figurehead, and while it may take many people in a legislator to make things happen irregardless of what the leader wants to do, it is the leader that takes the blame and becomes the scapegoat when things don't happen.
So if the legislator refuses to play ball not wishing to upset various local constituents and hurt their own career, or does not like working with the leader, the leader will be blamed for it in the end and be unlikely to see another term.
But the truth is often that it is not really their fault, but the fault of the people who created such a bloated government that requires more revenue than a less booming economy can support.
 
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Well said, though there are some specifics that somewhat alter the equation here in AZ. :) We have a truth in sentancing law, that requires inmates to serve 85% of thier sentance, so to release inmates early would require the legislature to deliberately change the law to allow that, and the hay that would make would end every political career attached to it. Also, inmates can be in for current non violent crimes, but might have several violent convictions in the past. I know more than one personally.
Unions don't have the power they'd like to in AZ, we are a right-to-work state, and in my Dept we have at least three, sometimes four competing unions to choose from. Only reason to use them is legal help, they have no power at the Captial level. On being Deomcrat, that's spot on, AZCOPS just endorsed Terry Goddard for Governor, Democrat Attorney General. I quit that union.
We made our cuts in-house, losing 2.75% of my pay, and taking 6 unpaid furlough days off a year, slashing positions and eliminating overtime. We also have a special election next month on a $.01 sales tax inscrease that comes with a auto repeal. It has to go through a Constitutional amendment, as we have a balanced budget amendment, no deficit spending allowed. I have paid for electric fans, coffee and coffee makers, microwaves and other supplies out of my own pocket for my staff, as there are no funds whatsoever for those items.
Personally, I like Governor Brewer, and feel she inherited an almost uncleanable mess from Nappy, (who presided over making 60% of the budget untouchable but voter decree), and intend on voting for her next election. That's just me, and waaay off the political cliff for here.
Back to guns, I am still of the opinion the next step must be firearms safety education in the schools. :)
 
i definately agree that firearms safety should be taught. I for one in high school had lots of friends who didnt know anything at all about firearms safety and had to teach them pretty much everything. I took people out shooting pretty regularly and have been in several less then perfect scenarios, the worst being swept with the muzzle of an old mauser that had just failed to fire. I was never hurt and knew the risks of trying to teach people who were less educated. I feel that it could somehow be attached to physical education/health class or something.
 
I know we are happy out here in Mesa that it passed!

I grew up in Montana, where gun handling skills are taught pretty young. I do see a lot of that in AZ, but that may be due to the type of folks I associate with. If the general concern is lack of education, well... that can be remedied. We just need a little cultural shift! ;)
 
Passed, signed and goes into effect in June/July.

At that we might have left this open except for the political drift.
 
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