assault-weapons ban, ex-cop vows she would 'not comply'

[SharpDog]

I have heard similar over the past year from LEOs in various jurisdictions:



Sparks fly at assault-weapons ban hearing on Capitol Hill, ex-cop vows she would 'not comply':
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-dems-push-for-assault-weapons-ban

 

[alsaqr]

Ex cops sometimes go to jail too.

 

[LiveLife]

No need. Instead, take the anti gun/2A law makers to court.

Our founders formed the government with three branches for this very reason so when the legislative branch passes laws that are unconstitutional, we the people can take them to court and have the Supreme Court "enforce" the Constitution/Bill of Rights to overturn unconstitutional laws for law makers to follow.

Just like District of Columbia v Heller. (I think there are law makers who are still feeling the butt kicking they got from the Supreme Court )

And there are many other unconstitutional gun laws that were challenged and already overturned or in the process of being challenged as outlined here - https://crpa.org/news/litigation/crpa-september-2019-court-report/

 

[AlexanderA]

There are many forms and levels of non-compliance. Some are overt and confrontational (and likely to land you in jail), and others are quiet and discreet. Prepare for the worst possibilities now.

The smartest non-compliance exploits the weaknesses of the drafted legislation. In fact this is not actually "non-compliance," but is super-compliance. Follow the letter of the law in order to frustrate its overall intent. That's called discovering and using loopholes. Gun owners have traditionally been good at this.

 

[Deanimator]

There are many forms and levels of non-compliance. Some are overt and confrontational (and likely to land you in jail), and others are quiet and discreet. Prepare for the worst possibilities now.

The smartest non-compliance exploits the weaknesses of the drafted legislation. In fact this is not actually "non-compliance," but is super-compliance. Follow the letter of the law in order to frustrate its overall intent. That's called discovering and using loopholes. Gun owners have traditionally been good at this.

The people pushing these things see themselves as the "vanguards of the revolution" every bit as much as the "activists" sent to steal the crust of bread from the mouths of starving Ukrainians saw themselves in that way.

They want lawful gun owners in concentration camps or DEAD. They've told me so.

They don't shrink from violence. They exult in it. Hence their support for Antifa.

 

[AlexanderA]

Our founders formed the government with three branches for this very reason so when the legislative branch passes laws that are unconstitutional, we the people can take them to court and have the Supreme Court "enforce" the Constitution/Bill of Rights to overturn unconstitutional laws for law makers to follow.

As drafted, the Constitution did not include a provision for judicial review. Judicial review was an innovation by Chief Justice Marshall in the landmark case of Marbury v. Madison (1803).

Appealing an issue to the Supreme Court is not a matter of right. The Court generally has discretion as to the cases it hears, and it takes only a tiny percentage of the cases that might come before it. You have to persuade at least four Justices that the case should be heard. They might turn you down simply because they feel the issue is not yet "ripe" (even though they might agree with you on the merits).

 

[Corpral_Agarn]

I think she did a good job at the hearing.

I am still reeling from the idiocy of some of our representatives.

 

[psyopspec]

In the not-so-distant future, it won't matter if you have every cop in America refusing to comply. https://g7k2n7t3.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Robot.mp4

 

[LiveLife]

I am still reeling from the idiocy of some of our representatives.

Yeah, it's supposed to be "government by the people, for the people" ... not government by special interest, for special interest

 

[JTHunter]

In the not-so-distant future, it won't matter if you have every cop in America refusing to comply. https://g7k2n7t3.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Robot.mp4

A "first generation T-100". The next will be the T-200 and it will be "armed".

 

[Jammersix]

They want lawful gun owners in concentration camps or DEAD. They've told me so.

Who is "they"?

Do you have any documentation for the concentration camp / death claim? I'd like to read it if you do.

 

[Meeks36]

A "first generation T-100". The next will be the T-200 and it will be "armed".

Just aim for the head

 

[Deanimator]

Who is "they"?

Do you have any documentation for the concentration camp / death claim? I'd like to read it if you do.

I no longer keep archives from usenet and FidoNet.

My experiences of the psychopathologies of proponents of racially invidious gun controls have been many and varied, from racial slurs, to threats of concentration camps, to favorable appraisals of the Holocaust.

For real fun, be Black and refuse the ORDERS of a White anti-gunner to unquestioningly support racially invidious gun controls.

They're by and large very twisted people projecting their psychopathologies onto gun owners.

 

[Jeff H]

For real fun, be Black and refuse the ORDERS of a White anti-gunner to unquestioningly support racially invidious gun controls.

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IIRC, that has been done already by the Black Panthers. Didn't end well for them. Of course, shooting the cops didn't help their cause.

 

[Browning]

Who is "they"?

Do you have any documentation for the concentration camp / death claim? I'd like to read it if you do.

 

[375supermag]

Hi...
This may well offend some but I believe that most law enforcement officers will happily enforce any and all gun control laws that are passed. Most in my experience don't want anybody but police officers to have any guns and will comply with whatever orders they are given to protect their jobs and the power that job gives them.

Further...do not believe the Supreme Court will overturn any assault weapons ban and/or confiscation law. Chief Justice Roberts has already demonstrated his willingness to "rewrite" laws.
I wouldn't trust him to vote against confiscation, red flag or any gun ban... I think he is more than willing to rewrite the Constitution and the Bill of Rights to suit himself and the liberal socialist progressive communist Democrats he seems to want to curry favor with.

 

[Rule3]

"They" just keep rehashing and resubmitting the same bill over and over. Scroll down to appendix A. They still have the year 2017 next to guns exempted??

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1296/text?r=21&s=1

So by that I can have a Ruger Mini 14 and Mini 30?? Duhhhhhh???????

 

[AlexanderA]

The people pushing these things see themselves as the "vanguards of the revolution" every bit as much as the "activists" sent to steal the crust of bread from the mouths of starving Ukrainians saw themselves in that way.

They want lawful gun owners in concentration camps or DEAD. They've told me so.

They don't shrink from violence. They exult in it. Hence their support for Antifa.

You are looking at a statistically insignificant sample.

 

[Browning]

You are looking at a statistically insignificant sample.

I wouldn’t say that’s true.

They’re small in size, but extremely vocal and what they say dramatically influences others within their party who might under ordinary circumstances be more centrist.

They have an influence far out of proportion to their small size.

 

[roo_ster]

You are looking at a statistically insignificant sample.

Did you watch the clip of O'Rourke saying he would confiscate? DI you hear the roar of the crowd?

They want you disarmed--so they can do to you what you would not allow were you armed.

 

[AlexanderA]

I wouldn’t say that’s true.

They’re small in size, but extremely vocal and what they say dramatically influences others within their party who might under ordinary circumstances be more centrist.

They have an influence far out of proportion to their small size.

I was referring specifically to those who supposedly want gun owners "in concentration camps or DEAD." The number that would say that is miniscule.

Did you watch the clip of O'Rourke saying he would confiscate? DI you hear the roar of the crowd?

Yes. Those were a bunch of college students, who were caught up in the emotion of the moment. Wiser heads on the antigun side have already thought better of this -- not that they don't want eventually to disarm everyone, but they realize it's politically inexpedient to say so.

 

[Browning]

I was referring specifically to those who supposedly want gun owners "in concentration camps or DEAD." The number that would say that is miniscule.

I’d disagree.

I think many in their camp feel exactly the same way. (Unlike Beto) most are just intelligent enough not to say it.

Most feel that we’re dangerous reactionaries and racists. Look up the term ‘ammosexual’ and see where that leads you. That’s exactly what they think of us.

Yes. Those were a bunch of college students, who were caught up in the emotion of the moment. Wiser heads on the antigun side have already thought better of this -- not that they don't want eventually to disarm everyone, but they realize it's politically inexpedient to say so.

It’s not just college students. That was just used as a handy example because it was on video. Hard to deny a video (although you seem to be trying).

Some are involved in government.

Try doing a search. It’s easy enough to find.

 

[theotherwaldo]

I was referring specifically to those who supposedly want gun owners "in concentration camps or DEAD." The number that would say that is miniscule.

-My Polish, Jewish, Scots-Irish, Black and Native American ancestors would probably disagree... .

 

[roo_ster]

I was referring specifically to those who supposedly want gun owners "in concentration camps or DEAD." The number that would say that is miniscule.

Yes. Those were a bunch of college students, who were caught up in the emotion of the moment. Wiser heads on the antigun side have already thought better of this -- not that they don't want eventually to disarm everyone, but they realize it's politically inexpedient to say so.

Did your study of history begin last week, when you fell off the turnip truck?

College students, caught up in the emotion of the moment.









My bad, in Cambodia they liked their mass-murderers on the young-ish side, many times younger than college age.









Yeah, I guess you got a point. NO WAY could college age kids get all violent and genocidey.

 

[Browning]

College students, caught up in the emotion of the moment.

Usually they’re directed, encouraged and supported by other, better entrenched and better situated radicals though.

They are dangerous all on their own though.