Barrel removal Arisaka Type 38?

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I have not taken my T38 apart to look. I'm assuming this is a threaded in barrel as this poor old rifle is a mutt. No matching numbers. Full length rifle barrel, Nagoya Carbine receiver etc.

Anyhow, I'm thinking of looking for a carbine length barrel.

Thanks.
 
It ain't no DIY project unless you have the tools & knowledge to do it.

Yes it is threaded, and it is tighter then a gnats hind end.

To change a barrel, you would need a barrel vice, a action wrench, a lathe, very likely a finish chamber reamer, and a Go guage to set or check the headspace.

rc
 
Thanks. Threaded is what I needed to know...

Small rant time...

Why do so many folks on forums like this automatically assume somebody has zero clue what they are doing and step into a condescending tone dispensing unsolicited advice?

I just wanted to know whether the barrel was threaded (my assumption), press fit or pinned....

(no smilie)
 
Small rant time......

Why do some folks that come to our wonderful forum assume someone is being condescending when they are actually getting a very thorough and accurate answer by one of the most knowledgeable members on the board?

You got an answer to your question. I'll probably never get an answer to mine!
 
For one reason, because that is the correct assumption without personal or anecdotal knowledge of your skills and abilities.

And it's a forum. Every question asked is read by many people who might have the same question, but much different experience, skills, and/or abilities. The answer serves all of them as well. Take what you need, leave the rest. It is not personal! :)
 
Why do so many folks on forums like this automatically assume somebody has zero clue...

Because nothing in your opening question gave an indication of your level of expertise.

rcmodel's answer was a courtesy to you in case you didn't realize the requirements that a job like that entails. There was nothing condescending about the information.


NCsmitty
 
Small rant time...
Why do so many folks on forums like this automatically assume somebody has zero clue what they are doing and step into a condescending tone dispensing unsolicited advice?
(no smilie)

Maybe it has something to do with your signature lines:
Please cut my pizza into 6 slices.
I don't think I could eat 8.
 
I agree that sometimes the way the question is asked will change the tone and extent of the reply.

If someone says (for example), "I am experienced gunsmith but am having a problem removing the barrel on a Norwegian Krag" it is one thing, and I would probably reply that the Norwegian Krag has left hand threads on the barrel.

But if someone says (again for example), "I got dis here old gun and I wanna make it a thirtysix and I gotta pipe wrench and which way do I turn the long skinny part?" the response will be at a different level.

Jim
 
Why do some folks that come to our wonderful forum assume someone is being condescending when they are actually getting a very thorough and accurate answer by one of the most knowledgeable members on the board?

You got an answer to your question. I'll probably never get an answer to mine!

Perceptions are not assumptions. I felt the answer given was condescending. It's the 'tone'.

For one reason, because that is the correct assumption without personal or anecdotal knowledge of your skills and abilities.

I beg to differ. That was not a correct assumption. Assumptions are often incorrect.

Do I need to post my experience with every question I may ask? Really?

And it's a forum. Every question asked is read by many people who might have the same question, but much different experience, skills, and/or abilities. The answer serves all of them as well. Take what you need, leave the rest. It is not personal!

That I will agree with. good point.

Because nothing in your opening question gave an indication of your level of expertise.

Again we need to throw our CV's out there with every question? It was a simple question needing a simple answer.

rcmodel's answer was a courtesy to you in case you didn't realize the requirements that a job like that entails. There was nothing condescending about the information.

Again, perspective.

Maybe it has something to do with your signature lines:

That's the best you've got? Must not have a sense of humor.

I agree that sometimes the way the question is asked will change the tone and extent of the reply.

If someone says (for example), "I am experienced gunsmith but am having a problem removing the barrel on a Norwegian Krag" it is one thing, and I would probably reply that the Norwegian Krag has left hand threads on the barrel.

But if someone says (again for example), "I got dis here old gun and I wanna make it a thirtysix and I gotta pipe wrench and which way do I turn the long skinny part?" the response will be at a different level.

Fair enough point. I still find it odd I'd have to post my resume to get a simple question answered without a lecture.

Thanks for the enlightening responses.
 
I cannot imagine a reply to that OP much different than what rcmodel said.

Just for clarification, if you don't mind sharing your resume after all this agonizing, ARE you equipped for and experienced in removing and replacing bolt action rifle barrels?
 
I cannot imagine a reply to that OP much different than what rcmodel said.

I suggest we'll have to simply agree to disagree.

Just for clarification, if you don't mind sharing your resume after all this agonizing, ARE you equipped for and experienced in removing and replacing bolt action rifle barrels?

Fair enough.

Yes, I am equipped and have some experience with barrel replacement and fitting.

I'm an advanced amateur machinist. I have a reasonably equipped machine shop here at home. (Amateur as in I've never 'worked' as a machinist)

I've rebarreled and rechambered a couple of K98 and Turk Mausers. So no, I am not an expert. But I can do the job that is the basis of my OP.
 
And speaking of pipe wrenches...

Whomever the monkey that did the rechamber and mix-n-match job on this Arisaka was did indeed use a pipe wrench on the barrel...

Geez it's awful looking. :(
 
I've rebarreled and rechambered a couple of K98 and Turk Mausers.

I would say that you can handle an Arisaka, then.
I do not remember when I learned that an Arisaka had a threaded barrel similar to every other bolt action miltary rifle that I know of, but it was a long time ago. So I considered it a very elementary question.
 
Prior to my purchase of this rifle I had never even knew what an Arisaka was...

Best $40 rifle I ever bought.

And I will not detail how many boo-boos I made getting that K98 right....
 
An Arisaka is a Japanese Mauser. No more, no less. Though they're far more robust than other nations' Mausers. They use the older cock-on-close action, and are capable of being loaded to nuclear levels that would blow apart even a K98. This applies to both Type 38 and Type 99. Whatever you do with it, have fun.
 
Im not sure about the type38 but the type 99 greatly differs from a k98 pattern gun in that the feed ramp/breaching is cut into the face of the bbl rather than the action as with a Mauser greatly complicating any rebarrel job

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Maybe it has something to do with your signature lines:

That's the best you've got? Must not have a sense of humor.

I was joking about the signature lines, thus the lack of sense of humor on your part.

However, I am willing to put that all behind us and just say welcome to the site, glad to see you are here!:)
 
To assume any reply by rcmodel is condescending is an insult to rcmodel and many members on this board.

Hey, go have a cup of coffee and a piece of pie or a sweet roll and take a look in the mirror.
 
Sorry, but saying the Arisaka is a "Japanese Mauser" may be basically true, but it is pretty simplistic. There are many differences between the Mauser (98 and pre-98) and the Arisaka. A major point is that the Arisaka is a much simpler rifle with fewer parts and is easier to manufacture.

IMHO, Arisaka did a pretty good job, notwithstanding the crudity of the late war rifles. I have a Type 38 short rifle that is as well made and as smooth as anything that ever came out of Oberndorf.

Jim
 
It you take RC's factual statement of the equipment needed as condescending
BUDDY

um, this may not be the place for you, and YOU REALLY want to avoid other gun boards, shoot, ask a stupid question over on AR-15 and see what true condescending means.
 
Pipe wrenches, did someone mention pipe wrenches?? Bubba's number one tool :cuss:

I got a barrel with pipe wrench marks. Wonder how much additional twist that added :banghead:

Did anyone mention relief cuts? Getting the old barrel off safely may very well require a relief cut just ahead of the receiver - then it will unscrew fairly easily :)
 
Twmaster, you did not ask if the T38 was a do it yourself project, now? you know. When I remove barrels the strong get weak and the weak pass out, I have an action wrench without a handle, if the action is stuck because someone used a Baldwin Locomotive to secure the barrel, I get a big hammer, if the action is stubborn I do not hit the action wrench harder, I get a bigger hammer, torque hammers.

This is the first time a T38 receiver has been discussed without someone saying something like “It is the strongest receiver in the world etc.,” and I always say “Forget the receiver/action, give me some of those cases that did not blow up when they tested the receiver”. Anyhow, I have 3 receivers I need to do something with, to me the Japanese receivers looks like the receiver ring is compromised, could be I got cheated, looks to me like the receiver ring on the right side is cut seriously in half, then there could be another reason for all that missing metal, The T38 has smoke holes, so the big missing piece of metal from the right side must not be for gas escape?

Stay in touch, I have a pile of barrels and have always wanted to build a rifle with the strongest action in the world and with a big chunk of metal missing from the right side, finding a T38 barrel has not been easy, that leaves me with threading one or a few of the pile of barrel I have, I have no good reason for choosing a T38 action when I have M1917 or M98 actions. I will dig and let you know.

F. Guffey
 
"Why do so many folks ... assume somebody has zero clue..."

When they ask a question that anyone with even minimal experience with rifles would know the answer to.

Jim
 
Note the Type 38 Arisaka barrel on the right. The breech cuts are a pain in the rear. The barrel on the left is threaded to the Arisaka action, but the extractor and bolt cuts have not been made.

Clemson

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