RedHawk357Mag
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Got out and tested a few more bullets in RedHawk and tested three bullets with a GP100 5 inch. Apparently the RedHawk spits them faster.
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sellersm
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Got out yesterday for a bit to retry my 9mm loads. BE-86, 115gr RMR RN bullets, 10yds. The outliers are from rapid fire...
I shot my first 357 magnums loaded with BE-86 today. They were loaded on a Lee classic turret press and I use RMR 158gr Thunder Cast bullets. I had rounds loaded at 7.3gr and 7.9gr with an OAL of 1.610. Guns used were a 4 inch 686 and a 6 inch Pre-model 28. I am posting my last target which was 12 rounds from each gun of the 7.9gr load. I shot 6 from each gun, reloaded both then shot 6 more from each. I don't have a chronograph but was pleased with accuracy. This was shot standing, off hand at 30ft, double action. I pulled one off to the target right edge at about 3:00 but the rest aren't too bad. Recoil was moderate. Based on what I read in this thread they were probably running around 1100fps. maybe more from the 6 inch.
Here's some recent chrono data for 357 with a 158gr LSWC;
10/26/2016
158gr Dardas LSWC
BE-86 7.3gr
CCI-500 Primer
Ruger GP100 - 6"
FPS FT-LBS PF
1- 1176 485 186
2- 1182 490 187
3- 1174 484 185
4- 1191 498 188
5 1179 488 186
Avg StdDev Min Max
1180 6.7 1174 1191
With 6.8 gr. the avg. was 1105 FPS but the 7.3 gr string was more accurate
10/26/2016
158gr Dardas LSWC
BE-86 7.3gr
CCI-500 Primer
Ruger GP100 - 6"
FPS FT-LBS PF
1- 1176 485 186
2- 1182 490 187
3- 1174 484 185
4- 1191 498 188
5 1179 488 186
Avg StdDev Min Max
1180 6.7 1174 1191
With 6.8 gr. the avg. was 1105 FPS but the 7.3 gr string was more accurate
Went to the Range today to Chrono a few mixed loads using BE-86. Had some spare bullets laying around and wanted to do something productive with them. Some were PIF from the great folks here on THR.
All were fired from my 9mm SIG P320C 3.9in bl. 32 degree (cold) Sunny. Used Pro Chrono digital.
Chrono was 3yds (15ft) from my position, shooting at 10yd targets. Primers are all WSP
Bullet/ Powder Load/ OAL/ (No rds/Avg Vel )/ SD/ ES / Brass
124 RMR THP/ 5/ 1.1/ (10/1018) / 18/ 58 / SPEER
147 Berry RN/ 3.5 / 1.165/ (10/737)/ 60/ 19/ Mixed
124 MG FMJ / 5.5/ 1.145/ (10/1086)/ 10/ 31 / SPEER
124 Xreme FMJ / 5.5/ 1.16/ (10/1083) / 14/ 46/ Win
124 Xtreme HP/ 5/ 1.1 / (10/1024)/ 19/ 51/ F-C
125 Sierra JHP / 5.5/ 1.075/ (10/1137 )/ 12 / 42 / SPEER
124 SPEER GDHP/ 5.5/ 1.12 / (10/1110) / 18/ 60 / SPEER
The 147 Berrys load caused FTE, i will have to increase the load more next time.
I did not go for accuracy, but free hand shooting showed good groupings for all at 10yds.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. THESE ARE MY LOADS DEVELOPED UNDER MY CONDITIONS.
LeftyTSGC
All were fired from my 9mm SIG P320C 3.9in bl. 32 degree (cold) Sunny. Used Pro Chrono digital.
Chrono was 3yds (15ft) from my position, shooting at 10yd targets. Primers are all WSP
Bullet/ Powder Load/ OAL/ (No rds/Avg Vel )/ SD/ ES / Brass
124 RMR THP/ 5/ 1.1/ (10/1018) / 18/ 58 / SPEER
147 Berry RN/ 3.5 / 1.165/ (10/737)/ 60/ 19/ Mixed
124 MG FMJ / 5.5/ 1.145/ (10/1086)/ 10/ 31 / SPEER
124 Xreme FMJ / 5.5/ 1.16/ (10/1083) / 14/ 46/ Win
124 Xtreme HP/ 5/ 1.1 / (10/1024)/ 19/ 51/ F-C
125 Sierra JHP / 5.5/ 1.075/ (10/1137 )/ 12 / 42 / SPEER
124 SPEER GDHP/ 5.5/ 1.12 / (10/1110) / 18/ 60 / SPEER
The 147 Berrys load caused FTE, i will have to increase the load more next time.
I did not go for accuracy, but free hand shooting showed good groupings for all at 10yds.
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. THESE ARE MY LOADS DEVELOPED UNDER MY CONDITIONS.
LeftyTSGC
bbqreloader
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I only run BE-86 in my 45, tend to get what I want out of it. Switched up to 200gr fp so need to go chrony those to see what their doing.
lauderdale
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How temperature sensitive was be/86 before I roll back on my notes? I know my case fill is ok close to full for position. Just wanted to ask? before I check/search.
gonoles_1980
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Is BE-86 on the shelf anywhere? So far I have only been able to get it from Powder Valley or some other online source. Haven't seen it it at Brass Pro Shop, or other local powder places.
My local range had an 8lb jug and a couple of 4lb ones last week
gonoles_1980
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That's good news. I prefer BE-86 for my heavier loads with the 44 mag, especially since I shoot in an indoor range.
bbqreloader
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I usually get mine at Sportsmans Warehouse, think they charge around 21 a lb
larryh1108
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It's kind of funny..... during the height of the powder shortage all I could find was BE86 since it was new and no one knew anything about it. The best source of info was in this thread. I was able to get a good supply back then. Now, I don't see it locally at all and it's spotty online. Funny how things change...
Wreck-n-Crew
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Ive seen none at the LGS's in my area. I wonder if they are on to it's popularity by now? I have been wanting to try some but I'm not in a hurry Since I'm sitting on a years supply of powder now.
As some said BE86 in my area as well was abundant way back, now its scarce. Luckily I bought a ton of it and worked up some nice loads as you can find way back in this thread. I am now working on some 45acp +p loads. Its my go to powder for 9mm. Too snappy for me in 40sw. Just haven't had the time with a newborn at home.
lauderdale
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Picked up a 8lbr of/ be86 @ wiedners and 4lbr. of w231. check out there inventory?
Just spoke with a shooting buddy and he just picked up an 8lb jug at the local Sportmans' Warehouse
RealGun
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These would have to be rocketing along pretty good, so I want to ask how the leading was rated. I am currently loading 7.5 after trying 7.0 and 7.3, with a goal of a load that is manageable all day in the medium-sized guns, e.g. a Smith 19 (K frame) with throat and forcing cone work.
lauderdale
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Im all ears I would think it w/led up after more rnds. been put threw it? (2 diff. side arms.) Im learning but nice chooten.
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alexcue
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Luckily, it's still available around here. I'm stocked up pretty good, and with the accuracy I'm getting out of it in 9mm I'd hate to lose my stash of it.
ColtPythonElite
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I just bought a 8 lb jug locally for $133 out the door.
Went to the range and tested some ZERO 125gn JHP, fired from a Sig P320C
All loads with BE-86, OAL 1.120, WSP, Speer Brass, 70 Sunny/ 15ft from chrono
Load / OAL / Shots/FPS Avg / SD / ES
5.1 1.12 10/1054 14 47
5.2 1.12 10/1072 11 44
5.3 1.12 10/1092 10 35
5.4 1.12 10/1102 9 33
5.5 1.12 10/1122 12 48
5.4 and 5.5 were best accuracy. one flyer was a mistake shot. All target areas are 5 shots. some holes overlap.
I want to water test these Zero bullets for expansion, in the future.
LeftyTSGC
All loads with BE-86, OAL 1.120, WSP, Speer Brass, 70 Sunny/ 15ft from chrono
Load / OAL / Shots/FPS Avg / SD / ES
5.1 1.12 10/1054 14 47
5.2 1.12 10/1072 11 44
5.3 1.12 10/1092 10 35
5.4 1.12 10/1102 9 33
5.5 1.12 10/1122 12 48
5.4 and 5.5 were best accuracy. one flyer was a mistake shot. All target areas are 5 shots. some holes overlap.
I want to water test these Zero bullets for expansion, in the future.
LeftyTSGC
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Is 5.5gr a compressed load at 1.120?
Ruger 15151,
Not if my math was correct. i dont have the figures with me but no it should not be. The Chrono numbers also do not point to a compressed load. Please someone let me know if i am wrong on the math. The bullet measures at .560 so i am showing only .185 of seating depth.
LeftyTSGC
Not if my math was correct. i dont have the figures with me but no it should not be. The Chrono numbers also do not point to a compressed load. Please someone let me know if i am wrong on the math. The bullet measures at .560 so i am showing only .185 of seating depth.
LeftyTSGC
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