Bears in E Texas

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Bears Migrating into East Texas at Growing Rate
By Ray Sasser / The Dallas Morning News

Mike Ford won’t forget the first black bear he saw near his home in Red River County, about 120 miles east of Dallas. It was the middle of a hot summer day in 2007. Ford, a former SMU quarterback raised in Mesquite, was driving along a dirt road when he noticed a black animal well ahead of his truck.

“I first thought it was a turkey because we’ve got lots of wild turkeys in this area and they’re pretty dark colored,” Ford said. "Then I saw that the animal was too big for a turkey and I figured it was a wild hog but that didn’t look right, either. As I got within about 200 yards, I thought I was seeing a black calf.

“Then it moved and there was no doubt what it was. I’ve seen lots of black bears while I was fishing and hunting in the Rocky Mountains, but I didn’t expect to see one in northeast Texas.”

As wild bears spread into eastern Texas from neighboring Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana, more Texas residents can expect bear encounters. Texas Parks and Wildlife biologist Ricky Maxey has logged reports of 14 bear sightings in the last year.

That’s a record number but Maxey wonders if it translates to more bears or merely a heightened awareness from the public, which understands the importance of documenting the animals. Most sightings are like Ford’s experience – from a vehicle at a distance.

Outdoor enthusiasts will just have to put up with the bears, protected from Texas hunters. Deer hunting season starts Saturday and with moderate temperatures conducive to increased hiking and camping, more Texans will be in the woods. Curious and intelligent with an insatiable appetite for almost any fruit, vegetable or meat, bears can be highly mischievous.

Nathan Garner, TP&W district wildlife biologist for the Tyler area, said he has two reports that were up close and personal, but both witnesses declined to be interviewed for this story. One encounter occurred not far from the Neches River near the proposed National Wildlife Refuge site in Cherokee County. The other was in the Sulphur River area. Garner said close encounters with East Texas bears are very rare.

Maxey credits habitat conditions for the erratic increase in bear sightings reported to the state agency. When conditions are lush and there’s plenty to eat, bears are less visible. In the 1980s, there were five East Texas bear sightings. That increased to 34 in the 1990s and 49 since the most recent turn of the century.

Since 2000, bear sightings were documented in 23 East Texas counties, and the bruins are showing up more often on remote game cameras used by hunters to monitor deer feeder activity.

“A black bear is essentially a 200-pound raccoon,” Maxey said. “Bears have a tremendous sense of smell, and most of their waking hours are spent following their noses to a food source. The food source is often corn or other bait that hunters use to attract deer.”

Twelve of the counties where bears have been seen in the last nine years border Oklahoma, Arkansas or Louisiana. Five others are one county removed from the border with those neighboring states, lending credence to the theory that bears are migrating into East Texas.

No confrontations between bears and people have been reported, but encounters are most likely during deer season, when hunters spend a lot of time in the woods. Maxey cautions hunters that bears are strictly protected by law.

Since black feral hogs are sometimes mistaken for bears, hunters must be absolutely certain of their target when hog hunting. It would be less expensive to travel to Canada and pay a hunting outfitter than to be convicted of killing a Texas bear.

Maxey said the bears in Red River County are probably young males forced out of Oklahoma by mature males.

Maxey added that the only bear killed by a car in East Texas was a young male run over on Interstate 30 near Mount Vernon in May 1999.

Texas officials have no idea how many bears have drifted into East Texas, but Chris Comer believes the number is small. Comer is an associate wildlife professor at Stephen F. Austin State University in Nacogdoches. For three years, he’s overseen graduate student studies designed to quantify bear numbers and habitat quality.

“We had a graduate student in Red River County who put out more than 350 hair snares to collect hair samples from a bear that brushes up against them,” Comer said. “He only got one hair sample. I suspect the number is much less than 100 bears and possibly no more than 20.”

East Texas black bears were common in the 1800s and Comer said a bear was reportedly killed in Sabine County near the Louisiana border as recently as 1964. Bears were hunted for meat, their fat was used as cooking grease and their hides were tanned. The large animals were also viewed as threats to settlers’ livestock and crops.

The Big Thicket of southeast Texas was the region’s last stronghold for bears. Still largely undeveloped, the Big Thicket is a vast expanse of bottomland hardwood forest north of Beaumont.

In Hardin County, “Uncle Bud” Bracken was considered the bear hunting champ, with 305 hides accumulated during his career in the 19th century. Two hunters in Liberty County reported killing 182 bears from 1883-1885. All their hunting occurred in a 10-mile radius of the Trinity River drainage. Another prominent Big Thicket bear hunter was Ben Lilley, who reportedly killed 118 of the animals in 1906.

Because of shrinking East Texas habitat, black bears will never return to those numbers, but the animals are thriving in southeastern Oklahoma. Joe Hemphill has been monitoring bears for Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation for 20 years, and he conservatively estimates as many as 800 bears in the four-county area across the Texas border from Red River County.

Oklahoma had its first modern bear season in October with a strict quota of 20 bears. Archery hunters bagged 16 bruins during the initial 23 days of hunting. Then the season was expanded to muzzle-loading firearms. The biggest bear reported by an archery hunter weighed 345 pounds after it was dressed and quartered. Its live weight was more than 400 pounds.

Hemphill received more than 40 nuisance bear reports last summer. He managed to trap and relocate three of the problem bears.

“Most of the nuisance bears are young males,” he said, “but we’re trapping more nuisance females, and that seems to indicate an expanding bear population. People want to make pets out of these bears, and that’s a bad idea. Bears are powerful animals, and they can be very dangerous when they lose their fear of people.”

Part of the Red River County ranch that Mike Ford owns has been in his family for more than 100 years.

“It’s exciting to think that the bears were here when my family first owned this land and now they’re coming back,” Ford said. “The landowners that I’ve talked with are excited about it. They appreciate all the native animals, whether they’re turkeys or bears.”
 
There ain't that many bear in Louisiana, but they ain't that far east of the Sabine. There's more bear, I'd think, in Arkansas, but mostly well north, but probably in SW Arkansas and SE Oklahoma. I wouldn't be REAL surprised if a few were showing up in the deep piney woods, but I'd be surprised to hear there was a very large population of 'em. Sounds like some are showing up, but it might be a while before we get a season on 'em in NE Texas.

There were actually bears here, on the coast, 100 years ago. My grandpa has told me stories of 'em. It would be nice to see 'em reestablish at least some of their former territory.

Ol' Ben Lilly got around, didn't he? He's the man that is credited with running the griz out of SW New Mexico.
 
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Wows, thats kinda cool, right on coast! But nowadays I'd have to think the E Tx woods would have better habitat for their extended return.
 
To my knowledge Louisiana still has a black bear season, maybe some of the Cajun High Roaders can chime in to talk about bear activity in Louisiana.

Be nice to have more Bears in Texas.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Wows, thats kinda cool, right on coast! But nowadays I'd have to think the E Tx woods would have better habitat for their extended return.

Yes, east Texas has better/more undisturbed habitat. It's not what it was even in east Texas 100 years ago, but the forestry industry and the national forests up there really help.

Down here, Brazoria, Matagorda, Jackson, Calhoun counties and inland is live oak woods country and would make for good habitat in places, but much of the big ranch country has been cleared for agriculture in the last 100 years and up around Brazoria county, there's just too danged many people. But, there are spots that could handle small populations of bear. They do well around humans else there wouldn't be bear in New Jersey. I doubt in my lifetime I'll ever see bear back down here in this habitat, but maybe in what time I have left there could be a huntable population back in east Texas.

One thing I've not quite undsrstood is that we have turkey down here, Rio Grande. They've been putting easterns in the piney woods for some time, but they've never really taken off to my knowledge into huntable populations. They never left down here. I don't have any on my place, but they are around and I've seen 'em elsewhere in the county and nearby counties and if you have 'em on your place, hunting seasons and limits apply. I had a TPW biologist tell me they released birds in my area, but I guess they didn't get established, not sure why. One thing, there are big numbers of preditors down there, especially bobcat. I reckon game laws came a little late in the early 20th century for east Texas, but the habitat, you'd expect they'd have rebounded by now especially since Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma have turkey. Odd. We have a lot of huge ranches and human population right around here is a lot thinner than in parts of east Texas, but there are some pretty huge, remote woods up there on Nat'l Forest lands and in the big thicket.
 
Ya know, one success story is alligator. When I was a kid, we had squat for alligator on the coast. They'd been killed off years ago, were actually considered endangered in the US. Now, heck, we got 'em running out our ears. They eat Labradors every teal season, LOL! We have a hunting season for 'em now.

I got to see a red wolf once when I was in my 20s, going out goose hunting one morning on the San Bernard NWR. That was really cool, still have an image of him in my mind from that morning. They were pronounced extinct in the wild in Texas in the early 80s. That's really sad. What did 'em in wasn't ranchers or hunters, was the spread of coyotes eastward which we didn't have back in the 60s when I was young. Now, there's coyotes everywhere. The coyotes bred with the red wolves and the red wolf genetics died out. Not much game managers could do about that one, I guess.

All this just goes to tell me that nature is dynamic and ever changing. Even if humans didn't contribute, even if humans weren't here, nothing would remain the same over time. Never has, never will.
 
MCGunner I think the reason the Turkey population has not taken off in East Texas is because of feral hogs and fire ants.
Some of it's possibly predation by Bobcats and coyotes as well.
 
Hell, it ain't like we ain't got feral hogs and fire ants down here, though. ROFL! I'm hoping the Strawberry Crazy ants will run some of the fire ants out. They're supposed to be deadly on fire ants. Got 'em running around all over my yard. I need some spectracide. The recent rains have got 'em building again. These things are a recent immigrant and they're spreading.
 
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MCgunner, you have Strawberry Crazy Ants? That is both cool and scary. Supposedly, their bite to humans isn't a problem, but shorting out homes and vehicles is.
 
There are other alternatives for landowners who spot large wild animals on their property. The Wildlife Rescue and Rehabilitation, a nonprofit organization that provides a 200-acre sanctuary for wild animals, is an option. Lynn Cuny, executive director and founder of the organization, said guns shouldn’t be a resort when dealing with animals.

She said her organization can go to a property and attempt to capture an animal that is a nuisance through live trapping. She said there have been unsuccessful attempts by the organization to catch a mountain lion, but there are other methods that could be implemented to deter unwanted animals.

“If you’re concerned about livestock ... donkeys and large breeds of dogs can serve as guards,” she said. “Fencing can also be an option, but the gun is not the answer. These animals are just trying to stay alive in a world dominated by humans.”

Cuny’s sanctuary in Kendalia, north of San Antonio, houses primates rescued from laboratories, mountain lions usually declawed from the pet trade, foxes, parrots and farm animals, to name a few. She said the $1 million budget to properly house the animals is enough to support the organization.

“We do everything in our power to help. These animals are not objects, they are beings,” Cuny said. “We do our best to educate on the animals. These animals deserve our respect and protection.”

In Texas law, if any animal is even threatening livestock, if it's leaving the scene of killing livestock, it doesn't have to be in the act, that animal can be shot dead. It's in the statutes, ain't gonna look it up.

Anyway, I have three letters for this bleeding heart....S S S


That said, they probably can't prove it, but I bet that guy is guilty as hell. LOL!
 
guilty as hell, and wouldn't have been caught except for his help keeping parts. I read another article on it where the man who kept the parts said he kept them for religious ceremonies. I don't even want to know what that is about.
 
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